Quote Originally Posted by EmberBall View Post
As someone who has bred a Caramel Het, albeit in a breeding loan situation, and as someone who does not have Caramels or Ultramels at this time, I think I have an ubiased opinion, and it is obvious where I stand on the subject.
Dave
Quote Originally Posted by EmberBall View Post
My experience with Caramels:

I had an adult Het Caramel female, SK line, and did a breeding loan with someone who had a visual Caramel male, from the CV Exotics line. We got one Caramel and several Hets. The Caramel was deformed, and either put down, or died on its own. We were not sure if it was kinked, or just deformed. The Hets all looked normal, no physical deformities. The owner of the Caramel male also bred him to several female Hets, as I recall, from a few different lines. EVERY Caramel they produced from each female Het was deformed/ severly kinked.

That, combined with the fact that I talked to a somewhat big, or well known Ball breeder at a show, and they told me they were selling out of Caramels completly, due to producing a ton of kinked babies, made me get out of Caramels too, before I got in too far.
These comments show that you don't have an unbiased opinion. It's pretty obvious that your issues with caramels is drawn from these previous experiences.