Bill, for me, the cost of an Ultramel is too high right now, especially with the economy the way it is. When Het Pairs are $1000, count me in. I think the only people who do not see the Ultramels as the obvious choice when it comes to Caramel looking snakes, are people that spent big bucks on Caramels, and have alot of time and money invested, and probably babies to sell.

As someone who has bred a Caramel Het, albeit in a breeding loan situation, and as someone who does not have Caramels or Ultramels at this time, I think I have an ubiased opinion, and it is obvious where I stand on the subject.

I guess some could argue that a Woma is a Spider substitute, and I would not really argue against that point. But I feel the Ultramel is by far the better choice if money was no object, and if money is the problem, I would choose waiting for an Ultramel to be affordable over buying a Caramel now.

Just my opinion.....

Dave