Ball Pythons are "Boring" ???!??

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So I went to the ETHS reptile expo today (picked up a leucistic bearded dragon, you can see pics of her in the beardie section) and was surprised to hear more than once someone bluntly say that Ball Pythons are "Boring"! "Bigger is better" and "Everyone and their mom has one and they are just so dull" were some of the comments I heard...

I don't necessarily agree with them at all. They come in an amazing spectrum of colors and morph that are usually affordable (yeah, retics get pretty $$$ with some of their designer morphs!) they are pretty much very docile and kind, and what I like is that they get big enough that they can easily be handled yet still be amazed with how big they can get.

I know it's just a rant and you all probably feel the same way as me...but sometimes, people just need to shut up and realize not everyone feels the same way as you...and instead of acting like a jerk, you could say something nice instead and have a mutual good time discussing herps...even if they aren't your favorite. Sure I am not a fan of retics or burmese (mainly because of size and difficulty handling them...), but I have plenty of cool things to say about them.

/Rant off. Thanks for listening. (and go check out pictures of Lucy my new beardie!!)

Mine is bigger than yours...

Come see my huge snake...

Aren't I awesome because I have a large constrictor???

Yah not even the strongest man on the planet can remove a full grown retic python once its hungry and coiling!

If one thing will always be true it is that people have opinions. They are entitled to them.

I (we) are entitled to the opinion that BPs are awesome and gorgeous and yadayada.

He is entitled to the opinion that BPs are sub-par and an inferior pet/investment.

I do agree though, he shouldn't be such a jerk about it.

Opinions are like underwear, don't show them to the public unless you are prepared to be publicly embarrassed..

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Yah not even the strongest man on the planet can remove a full grown retic python once its hungry and coiling!

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Is that a challenge? :D

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Originally Posted by Xotik

Opinions are like underwear, don't show them to the public unless you are prepared to be publicly embarrassed..

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Never heard it put that way, but why must you tempt me? :banana:

My Balls are just the right size :P

Lol love the "macho herpers" out there. "ball pythons are for girls, get a real snake" I'd simply tell him I own small feminine bps, a tiny dog, my trucks not lifted. Bull I'll still smack the crap out of ya wearing a sponge bob shirt and a smile and you won't do a thing about it. :) not advocating violence, but someone has to stick up for our little buddies.

Thinly veiled phallus compensation?

When someone is being especially obnoxious about something I enjoy, I smile sweetly and say, " Well opinions are like {impolite term for where you go to the bathroom from} everyone has one, but you don't need to share."

That shuts them up 99 times out of 100. For the remaining 1? You simply shrug and say, "Well, not everyone has something they are compensating for, so I'll stick to my {whatever it is they are badmouthing.}"

Gale

The funny thing those people dont understand is that if it wasnt for the popularity and boom of the ball market there wouldnt be much of a market for other reptiles. The fact that balls dominate the shows and the online classifieds is the reason those shows and classifieds get as much traffic as they do.

hey i was there today thats where i got my pastel from shores enuff snakes. they had some good looking beardies

ill admit ball pythons are boring as watching paint dry! but thats why i have them they will relax with me while i sit around or be on the comp, while they are around my neck. but i also have my female carpet, that would never do that she likes to explore everything(aka get into anything she can) so bps are a great change of pace when i want to just relax as I'm holding one, and not have to keep an eye on what there doing or destroying. and plus show me a snake or reptile that comes in almost any color combo you can think of, like a bp does.
tom

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Originally Posted by AK907

Mine is bigger than yours...

Come see my huge snake...

Aren't I awesome because I have a large constrictor???

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How bout
Come watch my my 14 footer bite the crap out of me when i open the cage..

or my favorite

wanna help me clean up this pile of horse manure

hahaha

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Originally Posted by Rob

Lol love the "macho herpers" out there. "ball pythons are for girls, get a real snake" I'd simply tell him I own small feminine bps, a tiny dog, my trucks not lifted. Bull I'll still smack the crap out of ya wearing a sponge bob shirt and a smile and you won't do a thing about it. :) not advocating violence, but someone has to stick up for our little buddies.

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Lol, Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?!! Everything is not for everybody. BTW, they just don't know how cool bps are.......

Not to upset anyone with bigger snakes, they are all cool. However, one is not better than the other.

I am happy with my balls, and boa.

Ball pythons may be boring in their low activity and sometimes fickle feeding response but they're rockstars in regards to their multitude of color and pattern combinations. As far as size, it's my opinion that they're just right.

Goldilocks

I LOVE ball pythons...but I also LOVE retics. I went to Bob Clark's warehouse today and got to see a lot of amazing snakes, both balls and retics, including his pied retics which are just ridiculous! I like I have a little variety though.


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I have to say there are always a few out there that criticize and must believe they own the best of everything so they can make up for other shortcomings in life. I have cooworkers that believe it it such a macho thing to have a pet snake and don't understand how truly amazing and shy balls are. They think it is an aggresive eating machine but I do my best to softly educate them.

I did a ton of reading on many jeeps before deciding on a family friendlyp
Per that will be a good fit with our 7 year old daughter. BP' are the perfect pet for us. I love the color, patterns, adult size and especially the friendly/docile nature. They only downside IMO is the fickle feeding. There is a reason why we have freedom of choice. Some just need to stop exercising their freedom of speech before thinking of others.

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Originally Posted by whispersinmyhead

Some just need to stop exercising their freedom of speech before thinking of others.

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Some need to stop getting so worked up over someone else's opinion.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Some need to stop getting so worked up over someone else's opinion.

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Yes and no. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's when that that opinion is voiced with the intent to belittle others that they need to be set straight.

The idea of owning any snake, whether it's big or small, to be more "macho" has been one of those ideas I never understood. From the way the OP described it that seemed to be the attitude of the guy, and I have no real comment on it. However, I know there are some opinions out there that ball pythons (and other staple reptiles) are awful because they take the focus off less flashy/popular species. I can almost understand that, seeing as someone would probably have a better opportunity to pick up a pretty co-dom designer morph ball than to take a look at something like a Savu python or one of the smaller West Indian boas.

At the same time, ball pythons were my gateway drug. Yes, I love and want to breed my ball pythons, sell off whatever offspring I don't hold back, and it'll probably be a large part of my efforts. But through owning them and getting involved in the hobby I have a much better idea of reptile care in general as well as what's going on in current events as far as herps go. I now want to expand my efforts into things like pine snakes, savu pythons, non-integrade carpets, some old world rat snakes.... list goes on infinitely :D and that isn't going into tarantulas, amphibians, and lizards yet!

Opinions are opinions, mean spirited or not, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. Put on a big smile and let them know you have your own opinion as well

Buuu :tears::tears::tears:I'm Getting Less Macho then because I'm Swithing from BP to Smaller Snakes...

Now I never will find a girlfriend....:tears::tears::tears:













:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by Rawbbeh

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So I went to the ETHS reptile expo today (picked up a leucistic bearded dragon, you can see pics of her in the beardie section) and was surprised to hear more than once someone bluntly say that Ball Pythons are "Boring"! "Bigger is better" and "Everyone and their mom has one and they are just so dull" were some of the comments I heard...

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Originally Posted by Rob

Yes and no. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's when that that opinion is voiced with the intent to belittle others that they need to be set straight.

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Not seeing the belittling in the OP's post.

Again, who gives a crap about one idiot's opinion? Or the collective opinion of a group of idiots? Do you seriously think that getting indignant and arguing is going to change anyone's mind?

I think ball pythons are boring. I think paying thousands of dollars for a snake that will plummet in value is ridiculous and I think anyone who is insulted by those twin statements needs to toughen up (and also read up on the definition of "Ponzi" scheme while they are at it). Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I don't really care to hear an opinion by someone whose self worth is so paper thin that they feel the need to change MY opinion in order for them to feel better about themselves and the choices they've made.

Now let me insult some of the giant snake keepers while I'm at it: if you think that your manhood or your "toughness" is defined by the animals you keep, you'd be better off investing your snake money in a string of therapy sessions to deal with your esteem issues. I work with a gay guy who takes pictures of hummingbird nests and breeds pomeranians as his hobbies and who also is a fairly successful MMA fighter. So much for macho stereotypes.

I personally think ball pythons are a bit boring too. Only because they lack the personality and inquisitiveness of many other snakes. As far as that goes, the favorites in my collection are my Boa, my Coastal Carpet, and my little bitty African house snake.

It doesn't have anything to do with size. People will argue the personality thing but I believe those people don't own other, more interesting snakes.

Yes ball pythons come in a plethora of paint jobs, are easy to breed, and fairly easy to care for but (IMO) they are not the most rewarding of the snakes one can have as a pet.


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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Yah not even the strongest man on the planet can remove a full grown retic python once its hungry and coiling!

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Lol, agree! That is why I won't get anything bigger than a BP. Just because it's safe doesn't mean it's boring! I personally like having small dogs and cats :)

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

I work with a gay guy who takes pictures of hummingbird nests and breeds pomeranians as his hobbies and who also is a fairly successful MMA fighter. So much for macho stereotypes.

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Things a gay man would do:

Take pictures of hummingbird nests. Check.
Breed small, poofy dogs. Check.
Wrestle with sweaty men. Check.

Sounds stereotypical to me... ;)

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Originally Posted by AK907

Things a gay man would do:

Take pictures of hummingbird nests. Check.
Breed small, poofy dogs. Check.
Wrestle with sweaty men. Check.

Sounds stereotypical to me... ;)

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LMAO !!!! :rofl:

Now I can only say that a snake is really all muscle... Or mostly muscle. I wouldn't want anybody to get hurt, including you AK. Honestly in certain parts of Colorado it's illegal to keep anything bigger then 5 feet. Simply cause big snake keepers have died by their "babies" that are 18 years old. Ironically they grew them up for that long and one day SNAP! Nite nite. So im kinda cool on big snakes iight:cool:

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

LMAO !!!! :rofl:

Now I can only say that a snake is really all muscle... Or mostly muscle. I wouldn't want anybody to get hurt, including you AK. Honestly in certain parts of Colorado it's illegal to keep anything bigger then 5 feet. Simply cause big snake keepers have died by their "babies" that are 18 years old. Ironically they grew them up for that long and one day SNAP! Nite nite. So im kinda cool on big snakes iight:cool:

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I don't have a problem with big stuff. Far from it. I have a problem with the macho guys who think they are hot stuff just because they have them. Same can be said for the folks who get into hots and brag about it. It can be a status symbol, much like how some people only buy overpriced clothing for the name printed on it.

I like lots of boring things. I was going to list them but I got bored...

Yes everyone has their own opinions. But I wholeheartedly disagree with what those people said about ball pythons. I love ball pythons, especially mine. They are my babies. I love snakes, and other reptiles and exotics. Each and every one of them are all magnificent and fascinating in their own unique way :D

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Things a gay man would do:

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While we're listing things a gay man would do, I happen to know one who could add 7 combat deployments, winning a Silver Star and two Bronze Stars with V, and being awarded 3 Purple Hearts to the list...

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

you seriously think that getting indignant and arguing is going to change anyone's mind?.

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Most likely not. But it may make him think twice about talking down about others pets to make himself feel like a big man. Everyone is wired differently, everyone handles things in there own way. I'm not the most passive person in the world.

I don't particularly like corn snakes but don't get snobby about it...but I get called a snake snob just because I prefer Ball Pythons, and snakes with "a bit more chunk to them"...

Laughing now I read that back.

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While we're listing things a gay man would do, I happen to know one who could add 7 combat deployments, winning a Silver Star and two Bronze Stars with V, and being awarded 3 Purple Hearts to the list...

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:gj: If I were closer I'd like to shake his hand.

So you mean their sexual orientation DOESN'T affect their ability to succeed in the military and be heroes? :8:

Wanna feel like a man? Get a rack full of adult amazon tree boas and feed them without tongs. Yikes!

I have both retics and Ball pythons and they are both great snakes and i dont see how any snake is "boring"

I just came across this. Now this is definitely not for most large snake owners, but for the ones who say, "You haven't owned snakes f you haven't owned retics," and think they're super manly -- maybe they're getting a huge snake to compensate for something rather small

I have both BPs and boas and i'll say boas are much more interactive and inquisitive than BPs are but I still love my little pied girl.

rule #1 when buying pets: don't get something that can kill and eat you.

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Well technically a dog can kill and eat you......

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Well technically a dog can kill and eat you......

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So can most things if you look hard enough.

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Afterall this IS a Zombie thread!

O boy smh.:O

the easter bunny hates you?

It's interesting when these old threads come up how many of the original posters are no longer active. I read through the first page of this thread and didn't recognize anyone so I looked to see when some of them posted last. Only one or two posted last year as their final post, the others stopped around 3 years ago.
Makes you wonder.

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the easter bunny hates you?

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It's interesting when these old threads come up how many of the original posters are no longer active. I read through the first page of this thread and didn't recognize anyone so I looked to see when some of them posted last. Only one or two posted last year as their final post, the others stopped around 3 years ago.
Makes you wonder.

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Since I joined, I noticed the same thing. My first form ever. I had a run in with a more "experienced" poster. Now he doesn't post as much, some of his old posts show he was barely knew what he was doing. You'll see a lot of overnight experts. And people disappear, that's definitely been brought up before.

i think those kind of people forget that not everyone can afford to care for and house a large snake like a retic or Burmese. I LOVE to handle young retics and think that they are absolutely beautiful. However, I am a realist and also know that I am not (nor will I ever be) set up to take on a snake that large.

My BPs give me the same enjoyment of handling and caring for them without needing the assistance of another person to help me handle them, the room to keep adult rabbits to feed them, or having to sacrifice an entire room for one enclosure.

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Yah not even the strongest man on the planet can remove a full grown retic python once its hungry and coiling!

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Nah, the title of the thread should read "BALL PYTHONS ARE MANAGEABLE". And they remain manageable. Retics and Burmese pythons are the "giant snakes" that don't always remain manageable for everyone. Stay in peace and not pieces. :gj:

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Originally Posted by se7en

rule #1 when buying pets: don't get something that can kill and eat you.

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Or kill and eat your infant daughter while she is asleep in her crib. Responsible or irresponsible? :colbert:

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Originally Posted by se7en

rule #1 when buying pets: don't get something that can kill and eat you.

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I think this would be better phrased as "Don't get a pet and allow it to kill you."