Keeping mice in the same room as my snake?

[redshepherd]

Please join some more snake communities, like fb groups and other forums, if this one isn't enough to convince you... You'll get much more convincing! No experienced keeper moves their snakes into a separate tub to feed, or even new keepers who have done good research. That it helps you OR the snake in any way is just a myth!

The fact that this myth is even persisting among those who have not done their research is only because species like ball pythons are so docile and easily swayed from eating, and they don't show stress in a clear way as some other species, so new keepers don't get a good bite in them. In fact, you will have a much better chance of the snake accepting f/t food too if you feed inside the enclosure, assuming you have good husbandry for the snake.

Feel free to come move my green tree python or tanimbar python out of their enclosures and into a tub before every meal.

Anyway, I also kept rodents in the same room as my snakes, only about 3 feet away. Initially, they became very excited by the scent but only for the first day, and then got used to it and know that food isn't coming.

[Danger noodles]

Wow this is great! If your taking solid advice from google and taking advice from breeders that have hundreds of ball pythons like a grain of salt, I feel sorry for u in general.

Also it’s no debate about live vs frozen. Live animals bite and dead ones don’t. No argument there. But hey what do we know here at ball-pythons.net that a random google search doesn’t.

[Danger noodles]

Please join some more snake communities, like fb groups and other forums, if this one isn't enough to convince you... You'll get much more convincing! No experienced keeper moves their snakes into a separate tub to feed, or even new keepers who have done good research. That it helps you OR the snake in any way is just a myth! In fact, you will have a much better chance of the snake accepting f/t food too if you feed inside the enclosure, assuming you have good husbandry for the snake.

Feel free to come move my green tree python out of her enclosure and into a tub before every meal. It'll take forever and you'll be bitten about five times in a minute. LOL

Anyway, I also kept rodents in the same room as my snakes, only about 3 feet away. Initially, they became very excited by the scent but only for the first day, and then got used to it and know that food isn't coming.

The only place I’ve ever heard people tell me to feed in a separate tub is at petco when I was just talking about my snakes have yet to bite me and the manager said that must be because u feed in a separate tub, I laughed out loud because I thought he was joking, but he told me to go to Walmart and buy a feeding tub ASAP. I told his I was not doing that and he should probably research that before telling more people to do that. Next time I was there he came up to me and said how wrong he was and he feels bad for telling hundreds of people to do that but he won’t anymore. Pretty cool guy

[Kenzieburgess]

your ONE lived experience with ONE success story with ONE animal does not trump countless years of practice over countless different types of animals. that's just a fact. we are telling you the Tried and True methods that can apply to almost every ball python (and HAVE been applied, and WORK, for DECADES). i promise you're running a risk of coming into issues in the future if you continue on with your methods.

I am just doing what works best for me and my snake with my "one success story" and when I get another i will do what works with that snake. I wrote before, I did both inside and outside feedings and I see a better behavioral outcome outside for right now with no issues and said before, if things change as he gets older, I will adjust my methods, but as of now, this works for me and my snake. I am not a child, I'm not getting defensive about me as a person, I am over my care, because I feel one way, this way works for this one snake, and I'm the worst person for it because I am doing a method that not everyone agrees on. All im saying no one way is the best way regardless of popular belief. And I'm getting tired of repeating myself over and over to everyone telling me to do method A when I keep saying method B is working for me. I'm done with it. This post was never even about how to freaking feed my snake. It was about your stories about keeping rodents in the same room as your snake. Nothing more. No questions, no advise, just your own experience and stories about rodents and snakes in the same room.

[55fingers]

Hey, I understand where you're coming from. I'm still a new keeper and only have 1 BP. When I joined, I felt like the worst person ever whenever anyone gave me advice. People don't like to be wrong, and it's embarrassing when we make mistakes or take advice from the wrong sources. I felt just the same as you. I even still get defensive when people on here give me advice. But I have to realize that I'm literally asking a question so I've gotta be willing to hear the answers I'm asking for. It's still not easy to admit when you've done things wrong, though. But I believe most on here have good intentions and just wanna help with your husbandry, and they have the experience to go with it.

It's hard to tell tones over the internet. What might sound aggressive when you read it might not be what they were going for at all.

Also I understand you didn't ask for help with how to feed your snake, so it must be kind of annoying having everything directed away from your original question. I think the way a lot of people on here see it, we all try to be accountable for each other's husbandry to an extent. At the same time, there's always the possibility that new or potential keepers are/will be lurking, and it's our responsibility to inform them what the experienced keepers on here consider good husbandry. It's not like we think your snake is in danger or anything, it's more of a statement for all those looking for the correct care (not just directed at you).

In the end, it's your snake, and you are responsible for his life long care. We're just trying to help you make the right choices for him. I completely understand what you mean, though. New keepers like me and you can sometimes get "defensive aggression" just like our snakes.

[tttaylorrr]

I am just doing what works best for me and my snake with my "one success story" and when I get another i will do what works with that snake. I wrote before, I did both inside and outside feedings and I see a better behavioral outcome outside for right now with no issues and said before, if things change as he gets older, I will adjust my methods, but as of now, this works for me and my snake. I am not a child, I'm not getting defensive about me as a person, I am over my care, because I feel one way, this way works for this one snake, and I'm the worst person for it because I am doing a method that not everyone agrees on. All im saying no one way is the best way regardless of popular belief. And I'm getting tired of repeating myself over and over to everyone telling me to do method A when I keep saying method B is working for me. I'm done with it. This post was never even about how to freaking feed my snake. It was about your stories about keeping rodents in the same room as your snake. Nothing more. No questions, no advise, just your own experience and stories about rodents and snakes in the same room.

good luck to you!

[Kenzieburgess]

I am seriously so done with you people right now. Not even reading what I am saying and being attacked for doing something different than the way you do things. Taking a post that was NEVER about this and blowing it up. I never asked for opinions, advise, or any answers. I wanted to hear your STORIES ABOUT RODANTS AND MICE LIVING IN THE SAME ROOM and in the process shared my story. You people are the most uptight hypocritical people trying to "help" people by attacking them. Grow up. I'm done with all you guys and this whole site.

[MR Snakes]

My original post stated that it was never a question. I simply wanted to hear your stories about your snakes and rodents cohabiting in the same room, not advise about how I feed my snake. I mentioned one little thing about it and it was blown up. Maybe I just didnt word my original post good enough and was misunderstood. Secondly, I have ready on several sources suggesting it, just by googling. Like I said before, I still hear your advise and take it in, but with a grain of salt. I am sure you did things a certain way because you researched it and where told by more experienced people you should do it another way, maybe not just about the reptile hobby, but for everyday people things. Either way, research and advise is taken with a grain of salt and adjusted and done by the persons own experiences, idk by me or anyone else. Like I said, this seems just as contraversal as feeding live vs dead. There are pros and cons either way, and there are personal preferences and different experiences and personalities.

1) So posting some links shouldn't be a problem?

2) I'd tread lightly with that kind of attitude around here. They are just trying to help and have loads more experience than most of us.

[MR Snakes]

I am seriously so done with you people right now. Not even reading what I am saying and being attacked for doing something different than the way you do things. Taking a post that was NEVER about this and blowing it up. I never asked for opinions, advise, or any answers. I wanted to hear your STORIES ABOUT RODANTS AND MICE LIVING IN THE SAME ROOM and in the process shared my story. You people are the most uptight hypocritical people trying to "help" people by attacking them. Grow up. I'm done with all you guys and this whole site.

Wow, that was fast. Might want to take a course on how to get along with people while you're away there chief.

[Zincubus]

I think we should draw a line under this issue to be honest .. it's easy to be swayed by something you read online ...

My first Corn snake and set up came WITHOUT a thermostat as the reptile store didn't mention I needed one !!


I'm sure the guy will just be happy to forget this and move on ..


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