Anti-landlord racks from beeger??

[Albinoballpython]

So soon me my fiance and soon to be daughter will be moving to a rent home, I live in Alabama where (the only good snake is a dead snake) attitude makes up 80% of the population and 99% of any landlord I'm sure since (no offense to some) are all older people that have this drilled into their head for life. I don't not care about this landlords personal problems with snakes, I will not be notifying anyone of my snake. I've read that beeger makes anti landlord racks of all sizes you can lock up. I currently only have one snake but plan to get 2 more within the next year or two and will only need a 5 bin tub with a locking cover. When checking the sights merchandise they advertise their anti landlord units but have none of them listed. Do I need to ask them for these specific units or is it just a cover made to fit whatever unit you choose? I'm so sorry I made this so lengthy. To the point, anyone with experience with this group and these racks? Recomendations?

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[PitOnTheProwl]

I will not be notifying anyone of my snake. I've read that beeger makes anti landlord racks of all sizes you can lock up. I currently only have one snake but plan to get 2 more within the next year or two and will only need a 5 bin tub with a locking cover.

Where can I start with this in my most tactful manner??
Thank you for wanting to be a planned problem for the rest of those around you and those of us in this hobby that try to open peoples eyes.
That being said, why in your ever loving self centered mind would you take on more animals that you do not plan to be a responsible keeper to?
Yes it is a truthful question.
Did you ever think of how your actions represent the rest of those that are around you and those that may come after you?

[Doggtyred]

Where can I start with this in my most tactful manner??
Thank you for wanting to be a planned problem for the rest of those around you and those of us in this hobby that try to open peoples eyes.
That being said, why in your ever loving self centered mind would you take on more animals that you do not plan to be a responsible keeper to?
Yes it is a truthful question.
Did you ever think of how your actions represent the rest of those that are around you and those that may come after you?

If he's not forbidden in the lease from having snakes, its a non-issue.. . local attitudes aren't relevant.. the wording on his lease is... He's looking to AVOID a problem during the inevitable occasional walk-throughs a landlord would be expected to make.

If snakes are not permitted on the lease, or if he's simply trying to avoid a pet deposit, then maybe that stern post is warranted. Was the original post edited because I see nothing that indicates he cant be a responsible keeper to his current or planned collection, other than being a snake guy in a community of snake haters...

[Albinoballpython]

Where can I start with this in my most tactful manner??
Thank you for wanting to be a planned problem for the rest of those around you and those of us in this hobby that try to open peoples eyes.
That being said, why in your ever loving self centered mind would you take on more animals that you do not plan to be a responsible keeper to?
Yes it is a truthful question.
Did you ever think of how your actions represent the rest of those that are around you and those that may come after you?

Thank you for your most..my relevant thoughts. Being closed minded is not the issue in the situation except on the oposite side, I am a psychologist that spends everyday attempting to show my patients thousands of different things way of looking at a situation to find the best reasoning or pathway to take steps to solve obstacles with ease and tenderness, which is what I am doing here. I live in a area where I cannot speak about my hobby at work or I will hear "your really gonna keep one of those things around when you will be having a child?" And "when that thing gets as big as your cars and eats you, you will regret it." I need to more to have extra room for our child and snakes, I've spoken to 5 landlords all who allowed pets (I also have a toy wiener and 2 mice I cannot hide so avoiding a pet deposit is not the problem) and all of them turned me down and would not speak to me because owning a snake is a symptom of being insaine within 200 miles each direction!
Now the comment below you seems to be more precise with his/or her conclusion and understands that my plan is to avoid loosing another possible dream home of my fiances by playing off the lease which does not specifically state that snakes are prohibited because people in their right mind would have one. So I need something nice to keep the collection in while being able to cover it neatly as needed to completely keep suspicions at a minimum to avoid having an issue. With that being said, It does suck more people are not more understand of the real nature of these animals and are blinded by horrible depictions of evil intentions of every snake they see on t.v. I spend everyday trying to educate that just because something is different or not understood by yourself dousnt mean you must ruin another person's life because of it. But now I am faced with a choice, do I loose more and more possibilities of the houses we need and want simply because they are not educated. My wife, my daughter, and my animals are my only family and I will do what I must to give them the best. I don't have alot of options for what we want and since we have to have pets it cuts our search into 1/4th what it could be so even more reason to take drastic measures and use wording and secracy to do what I must do. I appreciate your concern I'm glad you wish everyone to understand our love for our animals but I need help, not a lecture. I need a sizable house, not a cardboard box with "with snakes do not rent to" written on it to ruin my chances of having a house near my job.

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[Albinoballpython]

If he's not forbidden in the lease from having snakes, its a non-issue.. . local attitudes aren't relevant.. the wording on his lease is... He's looking to AVOID a problem during the inevitable occasional walk-throughs a landlord would be expected to make.

If snakes are not permitted on the lease, or if he's simply trying to avoid a pet deposit, then maybe that stern post is warranted. Was the original post edited because I see nothing that indicates he cant be a responsible keeper to his current or planned collection, other than being a snake guy in a community of snake haters...

No my original post was not editied. I posted before I went to bed and woke up in hopes of some answer to help me aquire the house type I need so I would have space for all my animals and child and room for our other hobbies as well. No lease has stated against snakes and each house I'm looking at is pet friendly until the bring up my snakes. I've already cut my options down severely and know my other options are only welcoming to my dog and 2 pet mice with a pet deposit of course. I wish to have a system that can be easily hidden and locked during house visits (like you said) and family members that are afraid of my pets. I keep my snake in a glass terrarium displayed so simply placing him in a bin system already breaks my heart, I do not understand why the above commenter believes my wishes makes me a horrible care giver and a scorn on everything we reptile lovers stand for, when my entire goal is to give them everything they need which is their own room for privacy that can be temp regulated and disguised as an office to avoid searching 100 miles away from my job for a house which will cut down my time with my family and pets immensely.

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[ballpythonluvr]

Where can I start with this in my most tactful manner??
Thank you for wanting to be a planned problem for the rest of those around you and those of us in this hobby that try to open peoples eyes.
That being said, why in your ever loving self centered mind would you take on more animals that you do not plan to be a responsible keeper to?
Yes it is a truthful question.
Did you ever think of how your actions represent the rest of those that are around you and those that may come after you?

I have to agree with this in some respects. I had a major move that I had to make a few years back. It did not state in my new lease that I could have not snakes but could have my cat and dog. However, I checked with my landlord about the snakes and was told that they were not allowed to come with me so I decided to do the right thing and rehome them. I am not saying you have to rehome your snakes but please do check to see if you can move them in with you or not.

My animals are also family to me but I did what I had to do and life still goes on. Now, I live in an a new house and because I checked with my landlord before moving in he is totally cool with me having snakes. Pit is right about one thing, there is so much negative propaganda about snakes already that it does not make sense to draw anymore negative attention to these magnificent creatures.

[Albinoballpython]

I have to agree with this in some respects. I had a major move that I had to make a few years back. It did not state in my new lease that I could have not snakes but could have my cat and dog. However, I checked with my landlord about the snakes and was told that they were not allowed to come with me so I decided to do the right thing and rehome them. I am not saying you have to rehome your snakes but please do check to see if you can move them in with you or not.

My animals are also family to me but I did what I had to do and life still goes on. Now, I live in an a new house and because I checked with my landlord before moving in he is totally cool with me having snakes. Pit is right about one thing, there is so much negative propaganda about snakes already that it does not make sense to draw anymore negative attention to these magnificent creatures.

This is what I am trying to do, I have been checking with landlord after landlord in my area but they all think they are dangerous creatures that only think about killing me and my family, small town, very old school, the only good snake is a dead snake. If I can find a landlord that just says pets friendly and dousnt ask about anything other than our dog and dousnt state in the lease about having other pets I think it would be fine to keep them unless my landlord found out and asked me to remove them, at that point I would. I'm not trying to lie to anyone to tweak their lease to meet my needs, if I'm asked if I have any other pets I'll tell them (which is what's happened to my other failed pet friendly houses I've looked at) creating more negative stigma something I'm willing to attempt by lieing to my landlord. Getting rid of my snakes in not an option for me, my wife would go into full on depression for months without them. Relocating my job to another area is not a possible option at all without taking a decent paycut which I cannot afford with our lifestyle and bills. I simply wish to have something with a cover like this person states they have so if my landlord dousnt ask what all I have and the lease just says pet friendly then maybe after a few years if the landlord asks what's inside the closed case and I say, "oh I have a small ball python I've had for years I keep him inside this ventilated locked rack system and show him/her than he is friendly, do a little BP education and show he cannot escape from the enclosure he or she may be more understanding and accepting of it seeing as I've had him for all that time under those conditions and who knows maybe they will be interested and want a cute little reptile in their life to, if not I will gladly be so kind to give up my child or ask if I can hold him until I find another place to live. No lieing, or going around anyone's back to create negative stigma for everyone.

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[hazzaram]

But what happens if you move in and keep the snake hidden, the landlord finds out and doesn't give you the chance to get rid of them? What if the landlord is so upset that he wants you out? I'm not sure how leases work in the states but could you be evicted for lying about the pets you're keeping on their property? Then what would you do with your family and snake if you have nowhere to live? IMO it doesn't seem worth it to hide the snake. I understand it is your family but I think there's more negative that could come from this than good.

[distaff]

If you can get some sort of vague but written blanket agreement of "pets ok," I would go with that, and still keep mum about the snakes.

I've also heard of the "anti land lord" racks, and think they are a good idea, but not because of deceit. Your land lord has a key to the place. Various maintenance and mgt people (depending) may also have access to that key. You really have no idea who will go snooping around when your gone, and might bother your animals. A protective and intimidating dog would be the only deterrent to that. So a locked non-descript (spell?) rack is good for your snakes.

I have owned rentals. I really didn't care what went on there as long as those actions didn't bother any one else, or put anyone in jeperody. (spell? sorry, I'm having trouble with spell check right now.)

[PitOnTheProwl]

There is a really easy fix to all of this. Do like we did and buy. Then you are in control of your property instead of living in someones house.