Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
the consensus is we are at a stand still in the debate.

There are scattered reports of more than expected slugs less than expected eggs, a couple white snakes. but nothing you can draw a solid conclusion off of. Any slugs or less than expect eggs or white snakes could be excused to "it happens" so you're never going to prove anything that way anyways. Then you have claims of 1209483897253247859 spider x spider breedings, only a handful are actually reported and none of them try to prove out a super spider, to prove the gene to be dominant. If you want to claim its not lethal you have to get an alive super spider or explain why its not lethal but also can't happen.

so simple answer is we don't know and there really hasn't been new information in years
How many breedings will it take to prove it? Slugs don't mean anything a large amount of infertile eggs would probably though. A spider x spider statistically would be what 25% supers? I think there would be a lot of discussion if there was only 75% of spider x spider clutches surviving. I have only done a few myself never saw anything different about them but that is only a small amount for myself. Why would I or anyone else report their findings? I thought most thought of this as a myth.