Okay, we have a Queen Bee Male (Lesser Pastel Spider) and a Bumble Bee girl (Spider Pastel).

We've been trying to get a new male without spider since we thought we could not breed these two together without producing dead babies. So now it is to my understanding that they will not produce dead babies (since a homozygous spider is perhaps not even possible); But, I've read that Spider x Spider produce more slugs? Any insight on that? Or experience with severe wobble babies from Spider x Spider It seems like very little people have actually bred two Spider genes together. The breeder at Repticon says he's seen someone that's bred Spider x Spider with no issues, but he also didn't know about the lethal combo of champagne x spider so I'm kind of taking what he says with a grain of salt. I've also never seen someone breed a spider gene bp to another bp with spider in it. Everything I've read so far from research seems like speculation with no solid answers still.