Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
(Teaser pics) Point 1: Stop your crying. They don't have to tell you anything and in most cases wont. Breeders spend years proving out something and they shouldn't have to tell you how they got there. Don't like it? Tuff

(For Sale) I have yet to see this problem and almost every snake I see for sale tell you what it is. So I see no problem here.

I got to ask, how long have you been breeding? Or do you breed? What kind of money do you have tied up in your snakes? How many YEARS have you been working on a project? And you think you should have to tell everyone how you got to that said pattern and color? Maybe you should stick to dogs and cats
On Point 1: I really don't have the time anymore to go over this, the point I made is not being paid attention. I am not crying. I have been talking the entire time about proper marketing and public relations for a breeder that is selling snakes as a main source of income. The "teaser" pick makes no sense and your argument makes no sense.

If the breeder proved out a new unknown gene they literally control the market, they are setting supply and demand with the progress of the project. That really hardly ever comes up. Also on that same point, what fool spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on a project and then keeps it a secret? Does that even happen? What's the plan for making the investment in time and money back?

On your question of how long I've been breeding and what I have invested. I have been keeping snakes for about 25 years. I used to keep mainly morelia (75% Diamond/Carpet crosses from Pete Kuhn and Jungles from the Barkers) and the old liasis complex (Water, D'Alberts, Olive, Ringed Pythons etc.) I worked with epicrates on the boa side and had some morph boa stuff all hets from Ralph Davis and Pete Kahl (who sold me the meanest snake I have ever owned a striped female boa 66% het albino way back when)

Right now I only have asperations to be a hobbiest breeder of Ball Pythons and breed what I like and I have thousands invested in Ball Pythons, not even tens or hundreds of thousands.