The codominance myth

[CH2O2]

I agree that this incomplete/codominant issue is not such a big deal. The world is not going to end if people dont start saying incomplete dominant insted of codominant. Each person has the right to continue using the wrong terminology if he/she wants to. What i can't understand is WHY someone who knows he/she is using the wrong terminology would want to continue doing so. When i learn that i am doing a mistake i tend do correct it. To continue making the mistake just because other people also do it is not, in my opinion, a reasonable excuse.

[OhhWatALoser]

I agree that this incomplete/codominant issue is not such a big deal. The world is not going to end if people dont start saying incomplete dominant insted of codominant. Each person has the right to continue using the wrong terminology if he/she wants to. What i can't understand is WHY someone who knows he/she is using the wrong terminology would want to continue doing so. When i learn that i am doing a mistake i tend do correct it. To continue making the mistake just because other people also do it is not, in my opinion, a reasonable excuse.

when talking to another person and you say incomplete dominant and they look at you like they have no idea what your talking about. Then want to argue they were always told co-dom and then you derail what you were originally talking about to have a biology lesson and then your left with someone who most likely does not care that thinks your being ridiculous because as you see most people couldn't care less and everyone says it the other way. On top of that you never had the original conversation you were trying to have.

Now as you see above, people who actually study this stuff will argue that it is not incomplete dominant or is and there other factors, nothing is proven, blah blah blah *insert other reasons I don't understand*, you can't simply say incomplete dominant is correct either. so you really can't win how you use it.

when it comes down to it, people want to talk snakes, not the label mendel put on these classifications.

That's why I have no problem using it incorrectly. I just want to be understood when I talk.

[CH2O2]

when talking to another person and you say incomplete dominant and they look at you like they have no idea what your talking about.

I would call that the perfect oportunity to teach something new to that person. You would be surprised how many persons like to lern something new. You wont know untill you try it.

Then want to argue they were always told co-dom and then you derail what you were originally talking about to have a biology lesson and then your left with someone who most likely does not care that thinks your being ridiculous because as you see most people couldn't care less and everyone says it the other way.

Some people will thank you for correcting them. Other people will continue to use the wrong term because they are stubborn. I say it is better to give those people a chance to make their own choise.

On top of that you never had the original conversation you were trying to have.

Why not? You teach them the correct term and move on to what you wanted to talk about in the first place. And if those persons still want to talk about incomplete dominance... ermmm... maybe they are interested in the issue?

Now as you see above, people who actually study this stuff will argue that it is not incomplete dominant...

Where exactly did you see above anyone that studied biology saying it is not incomplete dominant. I don't see it. Besides if you read, and understand, the definition of codominant and incomplete dominant (look above) you will agree that incomplete dominant is the correct term. I am not making it up. I am using the definition of the terms.

...or is and there other factors, nothing is proven, blah blah blah...

Did you read my response to that? Please read again, i have already explained it.

*insert other reasons I don't understand*...

Yes, you don't understand and that is not the problem. The problem is you are making an effort NOT to understand.

...you can't simply say incomplete dominant is correct...

But i can. Simply using the definition of codominant and incomplete dominant, i can.

so you really can't win how you use it.

I am not trying to win. I am trying to make you understand the definition of codominant and incomplete dominant. How you use the knowledge is your own choice.

...when it comes down to it, people want to talk snakes, not the label mendel put on these classifications.

No. YOU seem content to just "talk snakes". Don't presume to judge what other people want without asking their opinion.

That's why I have no problem using it incorrectly. I just want to be understood when I talk.

What a peculiar way you choose to be understood, when you consistently choose to use the incorrect terminology. No, you are just stubborn. You are standing in front of the trees but refuse to see the forest.

[Slim]

No, you are just stubborn. You are standing in front of the trees but refuse to see the forest.

Wow! 13 whole posts into your BP.net career...might be an all time new record.

[Royal Hijinx]

Wow! 13 whole posts into your BP.net career...might be an all time new record.

I was thinking that myself. I think the overall message may be valid, but the condescending "I am right" tone really kills the delivery.

[CH2O2]

I was thinking that myself. I think the overall message may be valid, but the condescending "I am right" tone really kills the delivery.

Insted of insulting each other i believe it would be better if we stick to the topic of the thread. If my argument is wrong, please show me how. If the argument is corrrect say "Thanks i learned something new".

[CH2O2]

Wow! 13 whole posts into your BP.net career...might be an all time new record.

Insted of debating the argument of the thread, you choose to belittle me based on my number of posts. I'll take it as a complitent since clearly you could not find a flaw in my argument.

[Royal Hijinx]

Insted of insulting each other i believe it would be better if we stick to the topic of the thread. If my argument is wrong, please show me how. If the argument is corrrect say "Thanks i learned something new".

I have not insulted anyone. I have even said that I believe the argument is for the most part correct. But, an attitude that you should be thanked comes off as condescending.

I could care less about your post count, everyone is new to a board at some point. But when one of your first set of posts is that we are all wrong, and should thank you for gracing us with your knowledge (information that has been posted before BTW), it just does not come off well. IMO.

This board seems to me to be a community of folks that like to help and offer knowledge without an attitude. Just my thought on the matter.

[CH2O2]

I have not insulted anyone. I have even said that I believe the argument is for the most part correct.

What is the part of the argument you don't believe is correct? If there are faults i'd like to know.

But, an attitude that you should be thanked comes off as condescending.

I dont think i should be thanked. That was your interpertation. However, i am thankful when someone teaches me something and i often express it. You are free to do the same, or not. But i do not require it of you. If you think i'm being condescending, that is your interpretation.

I could care less about your post count...

I never said you did.

... everyone is new to a board at some point. But when one of your first set of posts is that we are all wrong...

Please be honest and dont exagerate my words. I never said everybody was wrong. What i did say is it is wrong to use the term codominant insted of incomplete dominant. And i believe you already said you agree with me. So i dont understand why you are upset when i say something that you believe to be true.

... and should thank you for gracing us with your knowledge

Again, please don't exagerate my words. That is not fair.

...(information that has been posted before BTW)

I never said i was the first person who thought about it.

it just does not come off well. IMO. )

Why not? It seems it is you who is making a big deal of this. All i said is the term codominant is incorrect and you seem to agree. Why are you still fighting with me?

This board seems to me to be a community of folks that like to help and offer knowledge without an attitude. Just my thought on the matter.

I agree. All i wanted with this thread was to offer a bit of knowledge. The attitude is your interpretation.

[Slim]

Insted of insulting each other i believe it would be better if we stick to the topic of the thread. If my argument is wrong, please show me how. If the argument is corrrect say "Thanks i learned something new".

Who was the guy who said one of our respected, long-time members here couldn't see some forest or other due to his view being obstructed by trees? Hmmm, who was that guy?...Oh yeah! It was you. You may feel free to say "Thanks, I learned something."

Insted of debating the argument of the thread, you choose to belittle me based on my number of posts. I'll take it as a complitent since clearly you could not find a flaw in my argument.

Never said there was a flaw in your argument, but you certainly strike me as "that guy" who enters a new social group and initally seems to be interesting but quickly alienates everyone in the room....Don't be that guy