And yes i do look at imaging. I have a welld imaging system that i use quite often for my breeders and for any animal that may have issues. By your statements people shouldnt breed any spider combos, caramels, banannas, etc because of risk from something that may or may not come from their genetic makeup. So dog lovers shouldnt own or breed english bulldogs, pugs etc because of the inherant risk of nasal structure issues. Every animal has something that comes as a risk or a flaw in their genetic code. Now i wouldnt breed a kinked caramel obviouslly but for you to say we shouldnt breed them based on your google knowledge i think is flawed. Yes the internet is a good place to get knowledge. But you also cant believe everything you read on the internet. Now if you wanted to buy a car would you take the advice of the manufacturer or the mechanic? Think about it oh and the funniest part is your pro info at vms is coming from people selling spider combos and cinny stuff which both also have inherant genetic issues. Hmmmmm