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Re: Bee w/ wobble
 Originally Posted by xdeus
Now that's just silly. Maybe I should feel sorry for my normal snakes that might want to corkscrew but can't. 
The corkscrew movement is manifested in some spiders who goes one direction then decides to go a different direction - instead of turning the head on the shortest route to the direction it wants to face, like non-wobblers do - they turn their head the opposite direction, the longer route, to achieve the same objective. The facts are - the spider achieves their objective but from a different angle. Logically extrapolating - there is no evidence that a spider "can't" turn their heads in the shorter route - it could be that they have "preference" to go the other route... which could be because they do not experience a "negative feedback" for going the corkscrew route. Hence, my statement that it may very well be "preference"... just like a kid who prefers to write with his left hand instead of his right.
Do you feel bad for your kid who can't write with his left hand?
 Originally Posted by xdeus
I agree and that was the point I was making. I don't believe Spiders should be culled, but I also don't believe they should be propagated because they will all have this defect. I wouldn't breed eyeless snakes just to get a cool pattern as well. I think everyone has their own limits as far as what is acceptable and what isn't, and the guarantee of a Spider spin isn't acceptable to me.
Dude, I think you have a completely different understanding of "Spider spin". I'm not sure if you're just going by what you read or if you've actually seen a multitude of spiders in Reptile shows...
A spider is not guaranteed to "spin". Yes, it is guaranteed that he would have some kind of wobble - most of them ranging from very slight to undetectable. The undetectable ones are commonly manifested in a less-than-accurate strike at prey or the puppy-dog periscope. But, from your statement you make it sound like all spiders "corkscrew". Not so. Not even close. A giant majority of spiders are in the slight to undetectable wobble range. You know why I say that? Because, there are a BUNCH of people owning spiders and spider combos and only a very FEW report a wobble such as what is expressed by the OP.
I think it is safe to say that the severe cases of the wobble occur in the same frequency as other defects. And yes, we continue to breed the other morphs even when there's a possiblity that you can end up with a snake without eyes, snake without heads, snake with a deformed jaw, snake with bent tails, etc. etc.
Last edited by anatess; 10-06-2010 at 01:17 PM.
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