Too fat to work...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ot-enough.html

Wow. No one from Europe is EVER allowed to say America is fat, never again.

First they take the guns. Then they take the dogs. This is where it leads. :D

What is a stone to pound conversion?

Bacon Butties...

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

What is a stone to pound conversion?

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I don't think you can convert weight to currency :P

1 stone = 14lbs

SIGH... "Healthy food is too expensive, and it's too much effort to work out, so we're fat because its genetic" Grr... that is the main cop-out. True, being obese can be genetic, but it's rare. But because the condition does exist, many people rush to claim it...

Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I'm overweight and have been at the same weight now for 7 years. I've adjusted my diet (as much as possible given my acid reflux and the rising food prices) and try to get as much exercise as I can with bad knees, but the numbers just don't change.

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What is a stone to pound conversion?

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1 stone = 14lbs

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Originally Posted by ev477

I don't think you can convert weight to currency :P

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wrong! :P

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Originally Posted by Argentra

1 stone = 14lbs

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Thanks girl!

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

1 stone = 14lbs

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Thanks Dale! :D

dam homie.

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Originally Posted by ev477

I don't think you can convert weight to currency :P

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This family is converting stones to pounds sterling.

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I see what you did there, you cheeky fellow!

O_O I'm never touching food again, now. That makes me...ME! nauseous. O_o

I'm sorry, but I see way heavier people than that working every danged day. That's a cop-out, and the shame should be on the system allowing them to sit on their butts mooching off society.

I'm fat, and I've worked all my life. I'm fat becuase I eat more calories than I burn. Why? Because I don't exercise enough, and I eat too much, especially high fat/high sugar foods. I'm not going to try to blame something other than that.

First off those girls need to marry men that are blind deaf mute and have no sense of feeling.....

Secondly that dude is skinnier then alot of people I see working and those porkers he calls his daughters and wife would fit in great at your local wal-mart-esque craptorium.

But on a happier note due to their obesity they will lead shorter lives and subsequently will not be sucking off the teat of society as long as a healthy lazy person will.

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Originally Posted by Earl

I see what you did there, you cheeky fellow!

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Do you ever add to the conversation or are you just the Evil Clown?

Mike

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Originally Posted by hoax

First off those girls need to marry men that are blind deaf mute and have no sense of feeling.....


Mike

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:Now that is funny, but very true.

wow.... just wow..... excersize costs no money.. Its free... why dont they even TRY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ugh.. stupid ppl make me want to shoot someone.. lol... ugh....

secondly, they say that the max a man should eat is 2,500 calories a day?!?!? wrong... according to a few different doctors im supposed to be eating 5,000+ a day because of sports...

thirdly, obesity runs in my family on both sides... yet i decided to change that and have been eating and excersizing all my life and have 8-9% body fat.. so that is no excuse....



ugh.. stupid fat lazy ignorant people....

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Originally Posted by temec

secondly, they say that the max a man should eat is 2,500 calories a day?!?!? wrong... according to a few different doctors im supposed to be eating 5,000+ a day because of sports...

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The 2-2500 calorie a day diet refers to the "average" individual. Anyone regularly participating in strenuous physical activity usually requires a bit more. When I was regularly training for powerlifting competitions I ate 6000 calories a day and still had a hard time making substantial weight gains. No matter what I did, I couldn't get above 240. Pissed me off something fierce. If I ate that way now, I'd be fat as crap. It all depends on how many calories you are burning. Most people don't exercise on a regular basis, and a 2000 calorie diet keeps you nourished without gaining crazy amounts of weight.

yes i know.. but the article said MAX... as in nobody should eat more or they will become fat. they acted as if it was a law of some kind

Is it just me...

If they can sit around and eat...

...why cant they sit around and work; I know there are a lot of jobs that require sitting on your ass 8 hours a day.

BrandonsBalls

that is just wrong.

I've been a bit heavy all my life, but I don't blame genetics. There is a guy like 2X the size of one of them and he works at Wal-mart driveing the floor buffer. There is NO excuse for letting youself get that big!:colbert:
and look they can all stand just fine, so they can work.






I am happy to say in the last 3 months I have gone from 200lbs to 170lbs, All I did was cut back on the sweets. I am now the skinny one in my family (not counting my husband who could eat straight fat and still be a twig)

Kudos to you on the loss, JamieLynn! It's not easy, but well worth the effort. :) I'm not happy that I haven't lost weight yet, but at least I haven't gained anything either.

That 'can't work' thing really ticks me off as well. My good friend and next door neighbor is much larger than those folks are and just started a new job as a catering chef at a 4 or 5 star restaurant! Talk about active. :) But yes, there are also a lot of jobs that just require sitting that I have seen many large people doing. Grr...:mad:

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Do you ever add to the conversation or are you just the Evil Clown?

Mike

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Bollocks!

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Do you ever add to the conversation or are you just the Evil Clown?

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Bollocks!

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QT room is thataway ↑ guys.


dr del

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QT room is thataway ↑ guys.


dr del

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What? That's a bad word or sumfin?

wow. if i calculated that the 1 stone = 14 lbs the girls weigh 238 and 252 i weigh 250 and i dont look like that? on another note. in my opinion anyone can work as long as they can stand / walk. i knew someone who weighed 400 lbs that was a cashier at shoprite, and another one who was over 300 lbs who used to work for a cable company around here. theyre just lazy imo.

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Originally Posted by BrandonsBalls

Is it just me...

If they can sit around and eat...

...why cant they sit around and work; I know there are a lot of jobs that require sitting on your ass 8 hours a day.

BrandonsBalls

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Hey, I got a job like that.... Wait a minute. maybe that's why everyone around here is so dang fat.... :O:O:O:O:O:O

so if those fat ppl are over eating and complaining about not enough then how would one make it on 2000-2500 cals?
if anyone should be complaining here its me if i dont eat 6000cals a day im sick. typically im in the 8000-10000 cals a day. im 6' 140lbs and couldnt gain weight if my life depended on it

This is what happens when you have socialized medicine (universal healthcare). :rolleyes:

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This is what happens when you have socialized medicine (universal healthcare). :rolleyes:

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Nothing to do with universal health care. Has everything to do with fat lazy people.

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Originally Posted by blueapplepaste

Nothing to do with universal health care. Has everything to do with fat lazy people.

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Good comeback. :gj:

Did you read about the Dad (Mr. Hefty) being on a "waiting list" for a gastric band?

For some people there are valid reasons that they cannot loose weight. Some is genetices, but there are alot of health conditions and/or the medications to treat health conditions that can make it impossible to loose weight.
hypothyroidism is one of the most common that cuases wieght gain.Also if you ave any physical challenges like back problems due to injury or if you are paralyzed in any way that can make it hard to get the proper exercise. For some too with the economy may have jobs that are desk jobs who are forced to work more than the average full time just to feed thier families, then they get home and have to care for thier families so I can see how some just dont have time to look after themselves.
My family definatly has geneitc obesity. both my parents had the problem. Some genes just give you a low metabolism. my sister and i are both bigger. Where I am not severly obese I am overwieght and it is hard when you try everything and nothing works. I am unable to loose any more weight, took 2 years to drop 20 pounds, I am just able to maintain it and only by undereating.
thise people clearly dont try though, just from what they say they eat in a day. All that greese, yuck, I hate anything greasy make me want to hurl.
What they eat in a day I might have in an entire week, calorie count i mean i wouldnt eat the kinds of food they are eating.
what sucks is that healthy food is expensive. another reason to eat less. I cant stand burgers and pizza, and hotdogs and all that stuff you can get for cheap at fast food places. Getting a nice healthy meal of lean chicken, veggies, fresh fish, all that good healthy stuff, which I way prefer is definately more money and for someone on the go all the time its not very convinient either. Takes 2 minutes to grab a burger in a drivethrough, taks an hour to go to a restaraunt or make it at home. If they served an affordable home cooked lean meal at a drivethrough around every corner I dont think there would be as many obese people as there is.
unfortunately they have just made cheap and convinient unhealthy. Sugar and fat is cheap to buy so thats what places have to offer.

Weight aside, I think that the whole family is just abusing the system, and sadly that happens here in the states a lot
IMO eating healty is actually not all that more (if any) expensive, it just isn't as easy to do. I know I spend way less money cooking my family a healthy meal than I do taking them out to eat at a fast food joint.

Eating healthy is not that hard in fact.
A rice steamer from wal-mart costs about $15, and takes approximately 15-20 mintues to steam rice, and it will steam veggies and even meat(takes a little more time).
Stir-fry veggies and a bit of meat, add to rice, one healthy meal in about 15-20 minutes. There's two pans to wash, plus your dishes.
Baking veggies with a bit of meat in the oven, takes 10 minutes to prep, and 30 minutes or so to cook. Less time if you use a microwave. Cooking from scratch is not that scary or time consuming if you're not cooking haute cuisine five course meals.

I know some people can't seem to lose weight, but there's no excuse for them not working because they are fat. I weighed 280 lbs at my heaviest, still working, with health issues too. I know people with MS who work, and paralyzed folks in wheelchairs that work... they have no excuse other than "I'm lazy".

It isnt hard to cook at home if you can go home. For alot of people they have to lead double lives, go to school then go to work or from one job to another. Or people with kids have to go to work then go pick up kids and go directly to soccer game etc. Now you are faced with fast food as the only option. I often go from one thing to another with no time in between to even hit a drivethrough sometimes. You leave the house in the morning and dont return till midnight. Its those days that make it hard to eat right. I often forget to all together and then I realize Ive been out and about for 10 hours and still havnt had breakfast. So I find myself looking for the healthiest quickest meal I can find. Not a lot of options. I go to arbys since thier stuff isnt too bad, not greasy burgers, at least they have shaved roast beef on a bun and you can get a salad.

Eating fresh and healthy is expensive! Not to mention, it all spoils so quickly....

We rely a lot on pastas and frozen skillet dinner things, canned stuff..... Dont eat a ton of meat or fresh veggies. meh

I usually start out with a normal Targeteer's breakfat, a Snicker Bar, Dr. Pepper and a smoke. For lunch it's usually fast food, and I'm a big fan of Cocoa Pebbles for dinner.

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I usually start out with a normal Targeteer's breakfat, a Snicker Bar, Dr. Pepper and a smoke. For lunch it's usually fast food, and I'm a big fan of Cocoa Pebbles for dinner.

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I do all of the cooking at my boyfriends house, and so I make healthy dinners. I'm doing a stir fry Saturday, and a really nice chicken on Sunday. I usually make eggs in the morning(egg whites, peppers, onions, mushrooms) and things like that. We don't drink soda. We drink tea(splenda) and/or water.

It is a struggle for me right now, because I did quit smoking, but it's worth it to be healthy. I go on walks, I stretch, I work out. Slowly but surely, I'm losing the weight. I'll admit it. I'm fat. The great thing is that I'm not making excuses and I'm working on getting healthy.

Oh, and before anyone growls at me about the cheesecake in the Richmond thread, that's a 100calorie cheesecake that tastes like it's 15000 calories. Oh yeah. I'm awesome. -Does a little dance.- Oooh. I've got a jiggly butt. O_o

Hey Melanie...

Sounds like your an excellent cook. Also heard you bake excellent cookies!

*hint hint*

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Hey Melanie...

Sounds like your an excellent cook. Also heard you bake excellent cookies!

*hint hint*

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I keep inviting y'all to come up to Northern Virginia.

Do not have any links, but there has been a fair bit of research on how *proper* eating has become yet another privilege of the elite.

Imagine that, rich kids are fed better than less-rich. Go figure. :O

Being a person of size does not automatically mean you are less healthy.

I am surrounded by rail thin neurotics who I think could be felled by a sneeze. some of my more solid friends are robust, healthy and active.

There is a continuum.

Bruce

Addenduum: where is the option of "I have too many snakes to have to work" !?!?

Good for me that jellybeans count as both a helping of fruit and a helping of vegetables... after all they are BEANS, and they are fruity flavored!!
Crock pots help me cook at home. But I have days where I grab a piece of candy for breakfast, eat a sandwich from near work at 2-4pm.. then end up eating key lime cheesecake filling and jellybeans for dinner. Not healthy.

What most people do is take an all or nothing approach to eating healthy and keeping their weight in check. It should not be that way.

Eat a variety of foods and eat often so you don't over eat because you're starving. Never skip a meal. Cook a few meals and refrigerate or freeze when you have time, like weekends. Then warm up on a busy night.

Always have a snack around that's convenient and somewhat healthy. Don't over shop on items that spoil - buy what you can eat within a reasonable time frame. There's always a supermarket near the fast food joint so instead of a quick burger and fries, pop in to the deli for some chicken and pick up an apple or banana.

Cut down on caffeine and sugar drinks. Drink lots of water.

Never give up because of a one time setback. Next meal go right back to your normal routine. It sounds difficult but it's not with just a little planning.

JohnNJ

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What most people do is take an all or nothing approach to eating healthy and keeping their weight in check. It should not be that way.

Eat a variety of foods and eat often so you don't over eat because you're starving. Never skip a meal. Cook a few meals and refrigerate or freeze when you have time, like weekends. Then warm up on a busy night.

Always have a snack around that's convenient and somewhat healthy. Don't over shop on items that spoil - buy what you can eat within a reasonable time frame. There's always a supermarket near the fast food joint so instead of a quick burger and fries, pop in to the deli for some chicken and pick up an apple or banana.

Cut down on caffeine and sugar drinks. Drink lots of water.

Never give up because of a one time setback. Next meal go right back to your normal routine. It sounds difficult but it's not with just a little planning.

JohnNJ

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i agree with what you said, as its the best way. but its hard for me to do some of those things. the main reason im fat is because i eat once or twice a day and usually im only able to eat within an hour before i go to bed. which is where i fail. on weekends i can eat breakfast lunch and dinner i usually have 2 of the 3 and sometimes if im out on the road i stop by mcdonalds. but when im there i get a chicken sandwich and a fruit salad ( i know chicken sandwiches are nt that healthey either but are better then burgers ) and for some reason i cannot eat veggies :( i can eat corn and potatoes and raw green peppers and thats it i have tried every other veggie i can think of and they make me gag. i wish there was an all fruit diet :(

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i agree with what you said, as its the best way. but its hard for me to do some of those things. the main reason im fat is because i eat once or twice a day and usually im only able to eat within an hour before i go to bed. which is where i fail. on weekends i can eat breakfast lunch and dinner i usually have 2 of the 3 and sometimes if im out on the road i stop by mcdonalds. but when im there i get a chicken sandwich and a fruit salad ( i know chicken sandwiches are nt that healthey either but are better then burgers ) and for some reason i cannot eat veggies :( i can eat corn and potatoes and raw green peppers and thats it i have tried every other veggie i can think of and they make me gag. i wish there was an all fruit diet :(

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Have you thought about making a smoothie or something for on the go? Plus you can throw in some vegetables mixed with some fruit, non-fat yogurt, and a little juice and it comes out tasting pretty good, plus you get a few servings of fruits/vegetables.

I'm with you. The only veggies I can stomach are broccoli stems, raw carrots, and romaine lettuce (covered in cheese/bacon bits/ranch dressing - so not that heavy). Everything else literally makes me gag. But in the last few months I've been making smoothies with veggies thrown in and its been working out pretty good.

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What most people do is take an all or nothing approach to eating healthy and keeping their weight in check. It should not be that way.

Eat a variety of foods and eat often so you don't over eat because you're starving. Never skip a meal. Cook a few meals and refrigerate or freeze when you have time, like weekends. Then warm up on a busy night.

Always have a snack around that's convenient and somewhat healthy. Don't over shop on items that spoil - buy what you can eat within a reasonable time frame. There's always a supermarket near the fast food joint so instead of a quick burger and fries, pop in to the deli for some chicken and pick up an apple or banana.

Cut down on caffeine and sugar drinks. Drink lots of water.

Never give up because of a one time setback. Next meal go right back to your normal routine. It sounds difficult but it's not with just a little planning.

JohnNJ

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Excellent advice!! Especially about caffeine/soda/sugary drinks. I used to be addicted to Mountain Dew and orange Sunkist. I'd drink at least 6 cans a day of the stuff.

What I did was I gradually cut back over the course of a couple of months. I tried just cutting back all at once, but I'd last for a day or two then I'd be back to guzzling sodas. I set a goal to only drink 4 a day, and did that for a couple of weeks, then three a day, now I rarely drink the stuff, usually only as a treat for myself. And I've gotten so used to juice and water, that I can't even finish a whole can anymore as I find it too sweet.

Along with your advice I think that the key is to start eating healthier gradually. Set reasonable goals that are within limits - start with cooking a healthy meal twice a week. Before too long, eating McDonald's and related will actually make you feel pretty crappy as your body is just so used to healthier food. It's a great feeling when you get to the point where you'd rather have a grilled chicken salad than a burger.

My two cents....I'm obese and I have held a job for over 28 years. I'm a municipal truck driver and weigh 330 lbs at age 47. I had a boss who didn't like me and moved me to a job on the back of a rubbish truck back in 04. I had a minor back injury after two months. I tried to return to work after a week and they played games for 6 months, then fired me for not being able to do my job. I fought it for about 14 months, then they settled providing that I could pass certain tests. I passed everyone and have been back since july 06. I've lost 120 lbs at one time, but unfortunately gained it back. I drive anything from 10 wheel trucks to little sidewalk tractors. Anything I can fit in, I can drive :)

ok that just makes me angry, the lady across the hall is bigger than them and she holds a 7am-5pm job(thats when i see her) she is the nicest person and i think that it might be genetic but she is the most up beat person ever

The dad could work!!! he's a skinny ninny!

"Wow. No one from Europe is EVER allowed to say America is fat, never again."


that is so true....there may be ppl here that are overweight, but no one uses that as an excuse to not work- that's just ridiculous