Just got a lavendar albino!

So I already had a male & female albino but I saw a guy selling another male for $250 on CL (I got a Bee & rack from him before real cheap). He was going through a divorce and needed money bad. When looking at the picture, it looked like a lavendar. I asked him and he said it was a normal. Well I bought it today (it is a July 2012) and come to find out it is a lavendar! Dark ruby eyes and 3/4 of the body has that purple color.

I can't believe I just got a $1,000 - $2,000 snake for $260 bucks!

Anyone know what the odds are if I breed him to the regular albino how many will come out lavendar? I guess I could go the het route for lavendar but since I already got a female thought I would ask.

Can you post pic's? I doubt someone would be selling a Lavender albino on CL.

Yeah Pictures...and for such a low price I'd question if it was hot or not. Lavenders don't even wholesale for less than $1,500.

Pretty sure the guy would know what he paid for it, and would have known if it was a lavender albino.

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I agree with posting pics, but I don't necessarily doubt you. I got my leopard for a fraction of the price they are worth, and I still don't know why. I guess my main concern with a super cheap morph would be illness, so make sure you quarantine.

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Also, lavender albino isn't compatible with regular albino, so all of the babies would be normal.

Okay I'm fairly new to BP.Net, how do I add a picture?

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I just changed my profile pic to the pic of the albino. Don't know how long it will take to see.

You just bought an Albino, not a Lavender Albino.

.......where these pics already??

His avatar is the "Lav. Albino", it's just an Albino.

to answer your original question, if it is a lavender it will not be compatible with the more common 'typical' albinos. at least to the best of my knowledge. I've never owned either morph.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Can you post pic's? I doubt someone would be selling a Lavender albino on CL.

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That's the thing, he doesn't think it is a lavendar. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe normal albino's have a purple tint. From what I know, lavendars start changing soon after their born. I thought it was the lighting in the pic when I first saw it, but when I actually got to house and looked at him, he is definetly got a purple tint.

Maybe regulars do the same then lose it, but I wasn't aware that happens.

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Originally Posted by hitman3303

That's the thing, he doesn't think it is a lavendar. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe normal albino's have a purple tint. From what I know, lavendars start changing soon after their born. I thought it was the lighting in the pic when I first saw it, but when I actually got to house and looked at him, he is definetly got a purple tint.

Maybe regulars do the same then lose it, but I wasn't aware that happens.

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Upload your pics to photobucket, then copy and paste the IMG code here...

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Originally Posted by therunaway

You just bought an Albino, not a Lavender Albino.

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I might have to wait to see if it darkens. I sent the pick to 2 breeders I bought my Mojave & female Albino from and one said lavendar, one said normal. Pictures aren't the best either. I jsut picked it up this morning so this pic is the one he had with the CL post. I haven't had a chance to take any myself.

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Originally Posted by wwmjkd

to answer your original question, if it is a lavender it will not be compatible with the more common 'typical' albinos. at least to the best of my knowledge. I've never owned either morph.

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You're correct, as someone said above also, but according to WOBP Genetic Wizard, if you bred an Albino to a Lav. Albino you'd get Het. Albino Het. Lavender Albino. This goes to the OP, never buy from CL unless you're absolutely positive it's what you're buying, also here is a link to an Albino and a Lav. Albino, so I have some support. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/albino/ <- Albino | Lav. Albino -> http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/albino/ & I promise you, I am not trying to be a meany-head, I'm trying to help you so you don't make this mistake again, although an Albino for 260 is awesome!

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Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo

Also, lavender albino isn't compatible with regular albino, so all of the babies would be normal.

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I'm going to add to it XD. They'll be normal appearance. But all would be 100% het for albino and lav. albino.



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Originally Posted by therunaway

You're correct, as someone said above also, but according to WOBP Genetic Wizard, if you bred an Albino to a Lav. Albino you'd get Het. Albino Het. Lavender Albino. This goes to the OP, never buy from CL unless you're absolutely positive it's what you're buying, also here is a link to an Albino and a Lav. Albino, so I have some support. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/albino/ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/albino/ & I promise you, I am not trying to be a meany-head, I'm trying to help you so you don't make this mistake again, although an Albino for 260 is awesome!

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Both those pages are for the albino only.

Lavender albino
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/lavender-albino/

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http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/...0395165453.jpg

Real pretty snake congrats

Oopsies! I thought the second link was for the lav albino.

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Oopsies! I thought the second link was for the lav albino.

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Yeah I'm looking at the link and they look like what I have, same purple tint, ruby eyes dark patterns. I don' have the best eyesight though (lol). I have 2 normal albino's (low contrast) and he doesn't look lke either.

Either way, thanks for the info everyone!

That is a very nice looking albino! But I don't know about the lavendar part.

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Nice albino! Not a lav but it is deff a high contrast albino. The pink color can be caused by a lot of things, when my albino and pied are both sitting on the hot side after a little the white parts seem to have a pink tint, and on cold since its gone. I think of it as when humans are hot and warm they sometimes get red faces because More blood is being circulated.

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That is a very nice looking albino! But I don't know about the lavendar part.

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Yeah I have been sending it to a couple of people I have bought other snakes from (breeders) and 4/6 said it was, the 2 were adament it wasn't. Either way it was a good deal for it. If it turns out to be a lavendar, that much better!

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Nice albino! Not a lav but it is deff a high contrast albino. The pink color can be caused by a lot of things, when my albino and pied are both sitting on the hot side after a little the white parts seem to have a pink tint, and on cold since its gone. I think of it as when humans are hot and warm they sometimes get red faces because More blood is being circulated.

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So what would it have to have to be a lav? Or what doesn't it have that makes it not look like one? This is fairley new to me as I jsut started this year. Would it help if I took a pick on something white? He is in a bag at work, so right now not on heat.

I'm getting good info, so I appreciate the time.

It's not a Lav, but still a good price for a nice looking Bino.



Couple of words of advice that especially apply to CL purchases:
1) Don't believe everything you hear
2) A sucker is born every minute
3) Don't be a sucker

Sorry but from what I can tell that's just a High Contrast Albino. Lavenders have dark ruby eyes and are unmistakable. Albinos can have bright or a little dark red eyes but there is a huge difference between the two. Lighting can also make it look like it's lavender but it will lighten up and the orange will turn to yellow and the eyes will stay red.

For reference here is my founding male High Contrast Lavender as a baby (this is in bright lighting as well):
http://repdev.me/leon/08221010_lav/003.jpg

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Originally Posted by Slim

It's not a Lav, but still a good price for a nice looking Bino.



Couple of words of advice that especially apply to CL purchases:
1) Don't believe everything you hear
2) A sucker is born every minute
3) Don't be a sucker

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You might have missed what I said orginally. The guy I got it from didn't say it was a lav, he said it was a normal, It looked like a lav to me. I bought it from him because I had purchased a rack and a bee from him before.

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Originally Posted by hitman3303

You might have missed what I said orginally.

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I didn't miss what you said, I was just giving some general advice for dealing with CL purchases.

OP, it's a beautiful high-contrast Albino. Hopefully it turns out to be a Lavender, but I see a high-contrast. That pink tint may be from it still being small. My girl had that tint when I got her and with every shed it goes away more and more.

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Sorry but from what I can tell that's just a High Contrast Albino. Lavenders have dark ruby eyes and are unmistakable. Albinos can have bright or a little dark red eyes but there is a huge difference between the two. Lighting can also make it look like it's lavender but it will lighten up and the orange will turn to yellow and the eyes will stay red.

For reference here is my founding male High Contrast Lavender as a baby (this is in bright lighting as well):
http://repdev.me/leon/08221010_lav/003.jpg

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so it looks like a distinguishing characteristic is the orange highlighted or bordered by some yellow (based on google search & your picture. Below is a closer pick of mine. I see the same highight.

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/...ggie3303/k.jpg

Dude...Your snake is and Albino...Not a Lavender. No matter how hard you look and how many pics you take. Still a nice snake though.

Regular albinos will have that bright highlighting as well.

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Originally Posted by DemmBalls

Dude...Your snake is and Albino...Not a Lavender. No matter how hard you look and how many pics you take. Still a nice snake though.

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lol . . .I get you man. I'm just trying to understand how to tell the difference. LIke I said I have 2 albinos since babies and neither had the color of body, markings or eyes as this one. Then again they're low contrast. No matter what I got a deal.

Nice high contrast Albino, i like his pattern but idk about the lav part. My Albino is really bright and i always like to think it's something else but yea we all dream lol

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Great purchase non the less..

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Originally Posted by Slim

It's not a Lav, but still a good price for a nice looking Bino.



Couple of words of advice that especially apply to CL purchases:
1) Don't believe everything you hear
2) A sucker is born every minute
3) Don't be a sucker

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That advice is right on the nose...

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That advice is right on the nose...

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I've gotten 3 off of CL both from the same person who bought his from breeders (got cards, genetics, etc). I just caught him while he was going through marriage issues and got a lot of stuff for cheap. He sold me a stand, bee, regular, tubs, and herpstat for $500.

Wasn't looking at a snake, actually was looking to see if my post for my albino was showing and saw his. Other than that gett them from shows or breeders I meet at shows.

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lol . . .I get you man. I'm just trying to understand how to tell the difference. LIke I said I have 2 albinos since babies and neither had the color of body, markings or eyes as this one. Then again they're low contrast. No matter what I got a deal.

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The difference is about $2k...lol. From what I notice, laves usually have a larger/darker orange "head spot". Also...The eyes are obviously darker red...even moreso than the eyes on yours.

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The difference is about $2k...lol. From what I notice, laves usually have a larger/darker orange "head spot". Also...The eyes are obviously darker red...even moreso than the eyes on yours.

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Thanks for the info! I realy appreciate it.

I'd love black eyed albinos... the red eyes just totally throw me off

Also when snakes that have portions of white pattern on their bodies go into shed the white gets a pinkish hue to it. Maybe your dude is about to shed. Give him a couple more days and see if he sheds. I have no experience with lavs or high contrast albinos or let alone normal albinos so I dont know the extent of the "tint" that shows up in their whites but I do have a pied and an albino spider whos white turns pinkish when in shed. Your albino is a smoking little guy though! :gj:

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Also when snakes that have portions of white pattern on their bodies go into shed the white gets a pinkish hue to it. Maybe your dude is about to shed. Give him a couple more days and see if he sheds. I have no experience with lavs or high contrast albinos or let alone normal albinos so I dont know the extent of the "tint" that shows up in their whites but I do have a pied and an albino spider whos white turns pinkish when in shed. Your albino is a smoking little guy though! :gj:

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Great points! I didn't really think of that. My two albinos you can't tell by looking at them they're going into shed. I can only tell the female becuase she refuses food. My reg male albino eats up to shed so I really have no idea when he does it. I haven't had him long enough to really track a pattern.

Thanks for the info. I love this site, you get really good info.

Just wanted to update on this. I have come to the realization that it is not a lavendar (lol). But I did just realize that he is a she. I never poped him when I got him, I took him out yesterday to practice doing it and no hemipeens. I tried 5 times no hemipeens. I took out a male I got from a breeder friend, easily saw hemipeens. Tried again with Albino . . .none . . . Good deal for a female for $225.

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Originally Posted by hitman3303

Just wanted to update on this. I have come to the realization that it is not a lavendar (lol). But I did just realize that he is a she. I never poped him when I got him, I took him out yesterday to practice doing it and no hemipeens. I tried 5 times no hemipeens. I took out a male I got from a breeder friend, easily saw hemipeens. Tried again with Albino . . .none . . . Good deal for a female for $225.

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It's possible it's still a male. I would find someone local that knows how to probe and probe it. I always probe a probable female to be sure. Sometimes the hemipenes are just difficult to get out...

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It's possible it's still a male. I would find someone local that knows how to probe and probe it. I always probe a probable female to be sure. Sometimes the hemipenes are just difficult to get out...

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Yeah I was planning on having the breeder I usually buy from do it. I have purchased all of my snakes from him except 2 and he always pops them before purchase.