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  • 07-28-2011, 11:47 PM
    scc_583
    Rescue baby ball python ?
    I got this baby after he escaped from the tank at petco and got stuck to a mouse trap. They took it to a local vet and they pretty much just ripped it off. I want to do all I can to help this guy have a happy life. Any suggestions to help his side heal. BTW its current weight is 88 grams and he has been eating two mice weekly while they had him. And it is alert and active but seems to be breathing a little heavy. http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0b9a-2d37-bdee.jpghttp://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0b9a-2d55-65d7.jpg
  • 07-28-2011, 11:53 PM
    scc_583
  • 07-28-2011, 11:54 PM
    CatandDiallo
    I'm sorry, I don't have any advice for you, but..

    :tears:


    Please get better, little guy!

    Oh my, I think I just felt my heart implode.
  • 07-28-2011, 11:57 PM
    scc_583
    I know that's why I'm gonna try my best to get him back happy. But he don't seem stressed or anything. But he is in shed right now so he won't eat. I just feel so sorry for him
  • 07-29-2011, 12:02 AM
    tcutting
    holy crap.... ok so advice.....tough one

    keep it on just newspaper or something clean and that wont get stuck to the wound. antibiotic ointment can be applied but do it sparingly. feed smaller sized meals. you dont want it to put extra pressure on the wound. and I wouldnt feed it for a week or so give it time to start to heal... then feed slightly more frequent and again smaller meals. fresh water at all times and DONT HANDLE it unless needed for treatment.

    now i am not sure if that is the best things to do but that is my best guess/advice/what i would do.

    good luck
  • 07-29-2011, 12:03 AM
    Maixx
    A clean sterilized dustless setup, with paper substrate. A small water dish so he can drink but not soak.
    Betadine on the wound, don't use anything petroleum based on him.
    I would get him to a Herp vet asap.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:03 AM
    Justin Hatton
    i feel bad for the little guy...i am no pro at bps but if i were you i would put some neosporin (kind with no pain killer in it) on it a few times aday...and use newspaper as substrate and clean the cage daily really good...keep moisture down to prevent infection...well it looks like its in shed cuz of the eyes but after it sheds keep humidity down...other than that good luck...hope he turns out ok...like i said im no pro so hopefully the helpful more experienced bp owners and breeders will give some advice...and correct anything i have missed
  • 07-29-2011, 12:04 AM
    Eric Doane
    He is breathing hard because he is stressed. Put some neosporin without the pain killer on the injury daily. Don't forget to check out the care sheet in the forums page. Congrats on giving this poor little guy a chance at a better life.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:06 AM
    MoshBalls
    :tears: I am so glad someone like you took him home. Poor thing. I wish you well and keep us updated.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:08 AM
    scc_583
    He is on paper. And this happens two weeks ago and they took him to the vet. Vet said to spray with something they gave me with the snake. He looks a lot better than he did two weeks ago and is more active.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:12 AM
    scc_583
    O and I'm also not new to snakes I have 9.1 pythons and 1.1 boas plus this one.

    And he is currently in a sterlite container in a complete separate part of house then the rest of my snakes just in case
  • 07-29-2011, 12:14 AM
    CatandDiallo
    Was it a glue trap or something?

    Frig, I hate those things. So inhumane, to the animals that it is killing. Also, accidents LIKE THIS can happen!

    Subscribed to this thread. You need to keep us posted on this little guy.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:19 AM
    scc_583
    Yes it was a glue trap
  • 07-29-2011, 12:26 AM
    Kymberli
    Wow.. The best thing you can do for him right now is keep it very clean and allow it to heal up on its own as much as possible. That's going to be a serious scar but I think s/he should be fine eventually. It'll take a few sheds but it'll be looking much better soon. I'm no expert, but the advice given on much smaller meal items to reduce the stress on the injury sounds just about right to me. Hopefully others can input here.
    Good luck and please do keep us updated as s/he progresses! This will be one I'd love to see healed.
  • 07-29-2011, 12:28 AM
    Maixx
    Here us a previous thread about treating injuries and what to use and not use for medicine.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...eeding-injury*

    According to this cream based (not petroleum based) neosporin without pain killer is best.
    - the pain killer is poisonous to them
    - petroleum products can cause scale damage
  • 07-29-2011, 09:35 AM
    AliCat37
    I tried replying to this yesterday but my computer messed up.
    Like others have been saying, make sure you keep him on non particle substrate like paper towel. Wash the wound daily and use the non sting/non scented neo sporin to help fight off possible infection. He is going to shed A LOT to try fixing that wound. If he is eating still then I think that he will recover and be fine. Babies are resilient, they're born to survive.

    I rescued a garter snake that had been hit by a lawn mower, she was almost dead when I found her but I cleaned her up and warmed her up and she started eating and was on her way to the park after a few week.

    Thanks for taking the time to save him when so many others would have given up :)
  • 07-29-2011, 09:37 AM
    AliCat37
    Oh, another thing that sounds horrible, cut that dead skin away from his body. It's going to start to decay and you don't want that on him.
  • 07-29-2011, 09:40 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Oh my god, that's a crazy wound :(.

    I'm so happy to hear you took him in, he definitely needs someone that will give him the right care.:gj:
  • 07-29-2011, 10:04 AM
    dr del
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    A VET did that?!?!?!??

    Some days this world makes my knuckles itch sooo bad. :rage: :rage: :rage:


    dr del
  • 07-29-2011, 10:43 AM
    aldebono
    Betadine
    When treating wounds on our horses. We only used betadine the first time to clean the wound. After that use something else as betadine will kill new growing cells as well (quoted from my equine vet). Silver sulfadiazine can be purchased at your vets office, expensive, but priceless when dealing with severe wounds and great to have on hand for emergencies!
  • 07-29-2011, 10:53 AM
    Kinra
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    I glad you saved him and I hope he recovers fast. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CatandDiallo View Post
    Was it a glue trap or something?

    Frig, I hate those things. So inhumane, to the animals that it is killing. Also, accidents LIKE THIS can happen!

    Subscribed to this thread. You need to keep us posted on this little guy.

    I think the point of glue traps is that if you actually watch them, they are intended to be a no-kill solution. A simple google search would have told the vet how to get the snake off the glue trap without injury. A little bit of cooking oil and they come off nice and easy completely unharmed but maybe a little stressed. :(
  • 07-29-2011, 12:21 PM
    CatandDiallo
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I think the point of glue traps is that if you actually watch them, they are intended to be a no-kill solution.

    Sigh...I supposed so, but how many people who want their rat/mouse infestation gone will actually check the traps, on a regular basis though? Maybe if you have a small infestation you would, but far too many people use them for large infestations (barn infestations etc etc) and the rats and mice end up starving or otherwise.

    Anyways, that's not the point! I'm dumbfounded that they would use glue traps in a place that has animals that can escape and get caught in the glue traps themselves. That just seems irresponsible to me.
    And the fact that the vet just ripped it off too...

    Out of all of the injuries that I've seen on ball pythons, this guy really has a hold of my heart and I'm rooting for him!
  • 07-29-2011, 12:39 PM
    Homegrownscales
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maixx View Post
    Here us a previous thread about treating injuries and what to use and not use for medicine.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...eeding-injury*

    According to this cream based (not petroleum based) neosporin without pain killer is best.
    - the pain killer is poisonous to them
    - petroleum products can cause scale damage

    This is 100% correct. Do not use anything oil based on that injury. It will only make it worse. I don't use any neo on any injuries for a small one once in awhile it won't hurt. But this animal needs something going on that daily. The cream would be the best option. Clean with betadyne 2 x a day. To make it less stressful you could give him a betadyne solution soak. Water at 88.f mixed with beta until it's a dark tea color. Keep him on paper towel change every other day. The most important thing is to keep this as clean as possible so it doesn't Create a secondary infection.
    I'm glad he is in a better place. He needs some good tlc now.


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  • 07-29-2011, 01:35 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Ugh! I hate glue traps as well. They are NOT humane, they are intended to trap and hold a pest until you find it and dispose of it, it starves to death or dies from stress. They are NOT designed so we can easily remove a trapped critter.

    When I worked at a Petco (YEARS ago) they used glue traps. One day a co-worker unloaded baby corns into an insecure cage and they all escaped. I found ONE on a glue trap :mad:. It took me an hour to get it un-stuck with olive oil and no harm was done to it. Needless to say I threw out all the glue traps ;). Years later I found a mouse in a glue trap, and again, olive oil did the trick. I can't believe a VET just ripped it off and injured the snake! :mad:. Sorry, rant over...

    Everyone gave great advice! Get him eating and in the proper set up and I have no doubt he'll pull through.
  • 07-29-2011, 02:05 PM
    scc_583
    He will be taken care of. I figured he would have a huge scar on his side form this run in. But being small maybe he will be ok. He has made it this long. I don't care what he looks like he will always have a happy home.

    Ps I need a good name. But he is not sexed and I'm not going to attempt to right now.

    And also I think they had the humidity too high in his cage up there.
  • 07-29-2011, 03:17 PM
    Redneck_Crow
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsmorphs2 View Post
    Ugh! I hate glue traps as well. They are NOT humane, they are intended to trap and hold a pest until you find it and dispose of it, it starves to death or dies from stress. They are NOT designed so we can easily remove a trapped critter.

    When I worked at a Petco (YEARS ago) they used glue traps. One day a co-worker unloaded baby corns into an insecure cage and they all escaped. I found ONE on a glue trap :mad:. It took me an hour to get it un-stuck with olive oil and no harm was done to it. Needless to say I threw out all the glue traps ;). Years later I found a mouse in a glue trap, and again, olive oil did the trick. I can't believe a VET just ripped it off and injured the snake! :mad:. Sorry, rant over...

    Everyone gave great advice! Get him eating and in the proper set up and I have no doubt he'll pull through.

    Glue traps suck. And they're expensive.

    I use a tin cat trap. You bait it, sit it up against a wall, and sit back and let it work. Once you've caught them you can take it and dump it in a field.

    Nice thing about a tin cat is that it can catch escaped feeder rodents without harm.

    Tin cat for those who haven't seen one: http://www.doitbest.com/Fly+swatters..._campaign=BROI
  • 07-29-2011, 03:24 PM
    Skittles1101
    Poor thing!! :tears::tears::tears:

    So glad you are taking him in and caring for him, I'm sure you will pull him through this! Everyone's advice has been spot on, so I'll only add a name suggestion.

    Elmer? You know...making light of the situation, name him after Elmer's Glue...poor thing lol.
  • 07-29-2011, 03:29 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    Goood luck with this little guy, so sad :( Is that muscle??? Geez. Like you said, he is in shed, so I wonder how that will go over the spot in question :-/

    I hope he pulls through.

    Unfortunately a lot of vets are like doctors. No specialties and generalize all cats and dogs and don't know a lot about small animals. Yuck. I always have issues about feeding with my vets because they go with big name brands that pay them to advertise and the nutritional value just ISNT there. This is no better, in fact its much worse. To just rip off a mouse trap when I could have thought of many better ways to remove it despite the fact that I only went to school to be a vet for 2 years before changing my major.
  • 07-29-2011, 03:32 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Redneck_Crow View Post
    Glue traps suck. And they're expensive.

    I use a tin cat trap. You bait it, sit it up against a wall, and sit back and let it work. Once you've caught them you can take it and dump it in a field.

    Nice thing about a tin cat is that it can catch escaped feeder rodents without harm.

    Tin cat for those who haven't seen one: http://www.doitbest.com/Fly+swatters..._campaign=BROI

    we use something like this at work, unfortunately i think it has glue inside as well, but it gets wet so often the glue doesn't really work.
  • 07-29-2011, 03:47 PM
    tcutting
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    Poor thing!! :tears::tears::tears:

    So glad you are taking him in and caring for him, I'm sure you will pull him through this! Everyone's advice has been spot on, so I'll only add a name suggestion.

    Elmer? You know...making light of the situation, name him after Elmer's Glue...poor thing lol.

    WOW thats dark... Funny as hell but dark.
  • 07-29-2011, 04:06 PM
    matt y
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch View Post
    Goood luck with this little guy, so sad :( Is that muscle??? Geez. Like you said, he is in shed, so I wonder how that will go over the spot in question :-/

    I hope he pulls through.

    Unfortunately a lot of vets are like doctors. No specialties and generalize all cats and dogs and don't know a lot about small animals. Yuck. I always have issues about feeding with my vets because they go with big name brands that pay them to advertise and the nutritional value just ISNT there. This is no better, in fact its much worse. To just rip off a mouse trap when I could have thought of many better ways to remove it despite the fact that I only went to school to be a vet for 2 years before changing my major.

    Yes that's muscle. It's pretty terrible. I felt so bad for him.Shaun forgot to mention...He also has some bubbles under his scales underneath. I'm hoping that's not scale rot.
  • 07-29-2011, 04:51 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    :( my wishes are with him!
  • 07-29-2011, 05:09 PM
    AliCat37
    Hey, let us know how he progresses! I am sure we would all love weekly updates and pics :P
    Kinda want to go see what petco has in their back room now... I know petsmart gives away animals that are injured, I had a lady tell me that they had an eyeless goldfish they were giving away. Poor animals.
  • 07-29-2011, 05:19 PM
    DellaF
    Hope the little guy recovers quickly.
  • 08-03-2011, 12:22 PM
    scc_583
    He is doing better. I just helped him shed for the first time since the incident. Looks better. I will post pics after I get off duty tonight.

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  • 08-03-2011, 12:26 PM
    CatandDiallo
    So good to hear! I was wondering how this little guy was doing. Can't wait to see the pics you post up.
  • 08-03-2011, 01:07 PM
    Munizfire
    :tears:
  • 08-03-2011, 01:34 PM
    babyknees
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    Elmer? You know...making light of the situation, name him after Elmer's Glue...poor thing lol.

    I like Elmer too! Yes it's dark but it's a homage to where he's been and what a strong little guy he is.

    If you don't like Elmer something in reference to him being a fighter, strong, brave, etc. would be good.

    Good luck! This is a great thing you're doing.
  • 08-03-2011, 01:37 PM
    Munizfire
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    Poor thing!! :tears::tears::tears:

    So glad you are taking him in and caring for him, I'm sure you will pull him through this! Everyone's advice has been spot on, so I'll only add a name suggestion.

    Elmer? You know...making light of the situation, name him after Elmer's Glue...poor thing lol.

    not bad at all :gj:
  • 08-03-2011, 01:57 PM
    scc_583
    I need to sex s/he and figure it out but been trying to leave him alone and not stress him out

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  • 08-23-2011, 08:40 AM
    scc_583
    Update. He is doing better. He shed and had problems but I managed to get it off for him. Need to try to feed him again. Has not eaten in a while

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  • 08-24-2011, 01:55 AM
    matt y
    Just wondering, in reference to Shaun's poor little injured ball... If s/he hasn't had a meal since s/he got to Shaun's house, should we try to force feed him? He also looks kinda dehydrated. His water is changed daily and the tank cleaned, humidity and temps are correct too, just seems he won't drink or eat. No urates in there ever, just getting kinda worried.
  • 08-24-2011, 02:17 AM
    SourDeez
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    well how long has it been since his last feeding? 2 weeks? if so then i wouldn't be too worried. even tho he may not look it hes stressed and because you have to keep his tank cleaned so much its probably stressing him out a bit more.
  • 08-24-2011, 02:38 AM
    matt y
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    well how long has it been since his last feeding? 2 weeks? if so then i wouldn't be too worried. even tho he may not look it hes stressed and because you have to keep his tank cleaned so much its probably stressing him out a bit more.

    It's been a little over a month since he last ate. I know he's stressed. I would be too but we have to handle him to treat his wounds :(
  • 08-24-2011, 02:50 AM
    decensored
    :tears:
  • 08-24-2011, 11:37 PM
    scc_583
    He ate today and is shedding again. Also looking a lot better http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0bbc-c347-967f.jpg

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  • 08-26-2011, 02:03 AM
    SourDeez
    Hey came back to see how he was doing and thats awesome dude, glad he ate for you =) and keep up the good work. :banana:
  • 08-26-2011, 10:56 AM
    angllady2
    Poor little lamb.

    I'm glad he's eating, and I hope he'll eventually be left with only a scar to remind you of his ordeal.

    Gale
  • 08-26-2011, 11:03 AM
    crepers86
    Re: Rescue baby ball python ?
    Is that area where there are no scales, is that tender to the ball?

    I keep having bad dreams that some on keeps hurting one of my snakes. I just woke up from one where a girl accidentaly sliced my ball python in half then we tried to tape.... Yes tape it back together. like she worked in an animal clinic and she was cutting some paper with sicorses and slipped some how and cut my snake.
  • 08-26-2011, 01:25 PM
    matt y
    It seems to very tender. If we touch that spot even moving him, he jerks away very quickly. Some more good news though, he was out of his hide last night exploring around. He hasn't done that since he's been at Shaun's house so that's a good sign I guess. Hopefully that mouse gave him some energy and he can start healing more quickly :)
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