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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by chinchillachic18 View Post
    and is there such a thing as an all black ball python?
    The super black pastel is the darkest solid colored ball. You can probably make it darker with other genes that add hyper xanthism.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by hgrub View Post
    There's a spider that breed to normal and produce all spider. One of the big breeder told my friend that, so I guess there's such a thing as a super spider...unless he(the breeder) got lucky 3 years in a row.

    Don't know about pin though.
    I was also told that there is definitely a homozygous spider that throws only spiders, and that it has for at least 2 years. Like it was mentioned, it was third party info so take it for what it's worth.
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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Anyone have a pic of the pearl?

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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    That I know of its just the Pearl aka super woma
    Though it has been made with another gene added IIRC. The Lesser Pearl was done by Kevin McCurley no?

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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    http://livingartreptiles.tripod.com/id65.html

    Look through for Super Woma

    You can't take pictures from that site, which is why I have to post the link instead
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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    No.. its not Lethal the first one just had a box fall on it an killed it. Tracy told that on Reptile Radio. Its only fatal when you drop heavy objects on them.
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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    I think the most lethal gene is the "Rumor" gene.... the Rumor gene lurked in the form of the Powerball being a fatal gene for a long time. It comes in many other shades and forms as well....
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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    I think the most lethal gene is the "Rumor" gene.... the Rumor gene lurked in the form of the Powerball being a fatal gene for a long time. It comes in many other shades and forms as well....
    Well I have spoken to NERD myself and was told that pure Pearl die they fail to thrive and just keel over for no apparent reason. But can be strengthened by adding other genes into it.
    The rumor about the power ball came when the first one died. Now the truth was that it died cause of an accident not because of genetics.
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    Re: is there a lethal gene?

    That's great if Pin has been proven a true dominant. I'm not sure I believe it about spiders, though, my understanding was a lot of people have tried to make super-spiders, and failed. Proven super-spiders would be pretty valuable animals, considering how popular they are for making combos. (And no, I didn't mean Pin X spider in my previous post, Randy was correct in his interpretation--just to clarify).

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    Quote Originally Posted by karbogast View Post
    Freakie, I do believe Randy was reffering to when Spiders and Pins are paired with each other and not a combo of the two different genes. I could be wrong, however Randy knows his stuff when it comes to genetics and I believe the sentence just came out wrong.

    As for lethal genes, well considering how long it took for breeders to admit to the neuro problems with spiders, I wouldn't expect strait answers on this one. The breeders with the largest sample sizes, that may have answers, generally don't want those types of things made public for fear of bashing a project and upsetting those that have already spent money with them. There will be plenty of opinions, but not enough hard facts to back them up either way.
    Can you tell me more about this spider problem? I was considering getting a spider tobreed with my pastel,now I am a little nervous about it!!

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