is there a lethal gene?

[AjBalls]

No.. its not Lethal the first one just had a box fall on it an killed it. Tracy told that on Reptile Radio. Its only fatal when you drop heavy objects on them.

Must have missed that episode. I swear somewhere I've seen a picture of two side by side...

What's heavy? My mom dropped a 5lb hide cave thing on a ball pythons head some 6-7 years ago. It survived, had a flat head for quite a while, but still did great.

[Adam_Wysocki]

I swear somewhere I've seen a picture of two side by side...

Jeremy Stone has some that I think are about a year old now give or take (probably 08's as well) ... I know that he's posted a picture of two of his side by side on kingsnake a couple of times.

-adam

[AaronP]

Summary Post:

Spider x Spider = Unknown ATM (From what I'm told it's just more spiders, but no super, but I intend to test this myself in the future)

Pin x Pin = Super Pin with no visible difference between a Normal Pin except that when bred to a normal they produce 100% Pins. (God I hope that's right...and I intend to try it out myself)

I want to see a powerball!

[Freakie_frog]

I want to see a powerball!

Ask and Ye shall receive.

http://www.boaconstrictor.com/produc.../powerball.jpg

[chinchillachic18]

ok so what are all the combinations that never live?

[chinchillachic18]

or usually never live

[Freakie_frog]

That I know of its just the Pearl aka super woma

[AaronP]

Ask and Ye shall receive.

http://www.boaconstrictor.com/produc.../powerball.jpg

That thing's insane! And I agree, the only one not to consistently survive is the Pearl Ball.

[karbogast]

How is it lethal its called a "spinner"

Freakie, I do believe Randy was reffering to when Spiders and Pins are paired with each other and not a combo of the two different genes. I could be wrong, however Randy knows his stuff when it comes to genetics and I believe the sentence just came out wrong.

As for lethal genes, well considering how long it took for breeders to admit to the neuro problems with spiders, I wouldn't expect strait answers on this one. The breeders with the largest sample sizes, that may have answers, generally don't want those types of things made public for fear of bashing a project and upsetting those that have already spent money with them. There will be plenty of opinions, but not enough hard facts to back them up either way.

[Freakie_frog]

Freakie, I do believe Randy was referring to when Spiders and Pins are paired with each other and not a combo of the two different genes.

Ok I'm lost Randy didn't say that. WingedWolfPsion said that and to my knowledge when Spiders and Pins are paired with each other you have a 1:4 shot at producing a combo called a Spinner or are you saying that the non-combo offspring die. If so that's also not true to my knowledge.