I was going to quote some posts but WOW. is all I have to say about somethings said here.

Ok I will state my opinion.

1) If these adults were not shipped here I bet they would have been kept by said importer and the babies sold and picked through as all the others have been. They have their groups that lay and hatch and that is our farmed babies. The ones that has been said in this thread to be batter to go through. Them babis come from WC adults.

2) The bigger breeders or breeders that have been in it a long time do get dibs on the odd balls. 99% of the time one of them take the odd ball. But still that does not mean that a WC gravid female can not throw a dinker. This is what all morphs are untill proven.

3) if you support morphs then importing is a must.

4) Unless you know for a fact how these ball pythons are treated you can not say they are abused. I have personally seen Ron Billingsly's place. He keeps these snakes in great condition. And when they lay they are still taken care of. He gets 99% of them eating and treated. When I have a WC animal not eating I ask him. I think he has a secret power over noneaters lol.

I am not trying to fight. Just stating that all moprhs came from dinker balls that are WC.

all that is happening is the some of the gravids are being shippid over here instead of them sitting at the "farm" and then them laying and the farmers hatching the babies and picking through them.

What happens to all the adults? I can tell you Rons are taken care of while he has them. The other people I can not comment on. I have a dinker project from a WC gravid last year. The Ball Pythons all have silver eyes well half the clutch did. I had 9 eggs 9 hatched and 5 have the silver eyes. The female ate small rats after she laid. She was treated for internal parasites and that was that.

How many proven morphs came from WC gravid females. Ron got Red Axanthics last year. I honestly could not believe it.

Also Ivories have been hatched from WC gravid Females.

Not saying that saying that too many or too little have been imported. But they would be collected no matter what. The famrers know that the farmed babies will sell. No matter what. And they do not have to feed the Gravid females. They just have to sit and wait for eggs. Now them females are in the US. Do some die I bet you they do. DO some get kept and breed again. I bet they do.