Good New's and Bad New's

[joepythons]

Since he has had this snake thier has been alot of unknown things happening.I think you should slow down and care for your snake for a decent amount of time before breeding.If you remember this thread you wrote it shows you are not totaly up and up on your husbandry issues yet. http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=58221

[lillyorchid]

and i think they popped her and said male.

Where you there in the room with the person who sexed him/her for you? Popping is totally different them probing. Did they stick a probe up him/her vent? OR did they pop hit?

If they popped him/her then did the snake have the hemipenes come out? Males have hemipenes, females do not. Though it's known the older a male snake gets the better control it can have of it's male parts. Sometimes a male snake can hold it's hemipenes in and the person popping it thinks it's a female. It's always a good idea to go back and pop it again later on just to make sure. Ib your case I'd find a reputable breeder and see if they can probe or pop your snake,

[Hotshot]

You can not just look at a snake and get the exact weight .

was just taking my best guess bro

[lillyorchid]

Can you give this friend of a friends / breeders name?

[Freakie_frog]

*phone call* Hey man, you remember that Norm you sold me? (Him) *yeah how's she doing?* (ME) fine I just had her in to check for RI and she's only 600 g, I'm gonna have to go buy a scale cuz I dont believe shes 600g only. (him) yes that does not sound right. (me) they also told me she is a male, can you trade me out? after I find out if she really is a male.. (him) NO I DO NOT! take snakes back. (me) then what the heck are you running over there? (him) I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SNAKE IS A FEMALE!..
and he hung up after that

Find out first for 100% sure that it is a male by a vet. Then we'll see about helping you go from there until you get it sexed and resexed and you keep getting male you don't really have a leg to stand on with the seller. I know it sucks but you run in to this some times I did bought a female raised it up for a year or two. Dumb me didn't think to sex it and BAM male. Count your self lucky one of our memebers bought a "Female" het pied and all was good till it started producing sperm plugs and was resexed as male.

[Hotshot]

Where you there in the room with the person who sexed him/her for you? Popping is totally different them probing. Did they stick a probe up him/her vent? OR did they pop hit?

If they popped him/her then did the snake have the hemipenes come out? Males have hemipenes, females do not. Though it's known the older a male snake gets the better control it can have of it's male parts. Sometimes a male snake can hold it's hemipenes in and the person popping it thinks it's a female. It's always a good idea to go back and pop it again later on just to make sure. Ib your case I'd find a reputable breeder and see if they can probe or pop your snake,

they popped it for sure. I know what probe is and the 1st time it came out the 3rd and 4th nothing so he thinks male ...

[Hotshot]

Since he has had this snake thier has been alot of unknown things happening.I think you should slow down and care for your snake for a decent amount of time before breeding.If you remember this thread you wrote it shows you are not totaly up and up on your husbandry issues yet. http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=58221

yeah i know bro -_- ne ways if i gotta buy another snake then w.e i got my life to deal with snakes

[elevatethis]

they popped it for sure. I know what probe is and the 1st time it came out the 3rd and 4th nothing so he thinks male ...

If they popped it and the "it" that came out was one or two purple-reddish mushroom looking things, then chances are really good that you have a male. Females don't have hemipenes

If this was the person that originally sold you a "female," and have said it is now "your problem," I wouldn't put it past him to attempt to pop the snake again and purposefully NOT evert the hemipenes with you standing right in front of him. Just from reading your posts, I'm guessing that you are young and might have been seen as an easy target for a seller to pull one over on...

Follow the advice given to you, but understand you aren't the first to have this happen to them. Take your business elsewhere from now on and feel free to share with others whom you won't deal with anymore and why.

If it doesn't work out in your favor, chalk it up to experience, learn from it, and move on. If I dwelled on every mistake I had to learn the hard way, I'd be in pretty rough shape.

[Hotshot]

he just called my back, while I was reading the post and he says, that he can't trade me cuz he has no female norms right now.but would work out a cheap deal for a morph, i said no I dont want to give up my snake just wanted a female from the start now she's grown on me and I cant give her up but I'm not buying any thing els from you.

[elevatethis]

He mis-sexed an animal and attempts to make good on it by trying to get more money out of you? Classy...

But then again, a year and a half has passed...and I do think that the buyer assumes some liability when purchasing an animal with very little to no sexual dimorphism (clear visible differences between males and females). Sellers/Scammers have trouble being dishonest with educated buyers...you need to do your research ahead of time and know what a female or male looks like when it is popped or probed to make sure you are buying exactly what you're paying for.