What do I do with this poor baby?

[hollowlaughter]

We'll need more specific information on the setup you have, pics would be best.

Specific questions:

• How are you heating? UTH? CHE? RHP?
• What's the temp on the cold side and the hot side?
• What's the size of the tub?
• What's the animal given for security options? (Hides? How many? Plant cover? Which substrate? Tub sides blacked out?)

So pics of the animal and also the setup will help us possibly root out issues on your end, which is all we can really do. Seems to be some issues on breeder side as well, based on the information you've given, but nothing to be done about that. All we can focus on right now is trying to rectify what might be causing the animal to have these reactions.

Going into the vet and getting a checkup and fecal screen no matter what is also advisable.

[LindsayMichelle]

We'll need more specific information on the setup you have, pics would be best.

Specific questions:

• How are you heating? UTH? CHE? RHP?
• What's the temp on the cold side and the hot side?
• What's the size of the tub?
• What's the animal given for security options? (Hides? How many? Plant cover? Which substrate? Tub sides blacked out?)

So pics of the animal and also the setup will help us possibly root out issues on your end, which is all we can really do. Seems to be some issues on breeder side as well, based on the information you've given, but nothing to be done about that. All we can focus on right now is trying to rectify what might be causing the animal to have these reactions.

Going into the vet and getting a checkup and fecal screen no matter what is also advisable.

Ok so here is my setup right now. It is a 28qt sterilite tub. I was given a zoomed heating pad and the one thermometer/hygrometer for a rub setup and told it was all I needed. The heating pad was too small I think, the temps were too low. So I started using a regular heating pad (temporarily and under strict supervision) and the temp was perfect. I'm going out today and can get whatever else he needs, which I understand is a new heating source, 2 more thermometers, a thermostat, plant cover, another hide and moisture retaining substrate. Any recommendations on specific products (economical is appreciated, but not necessary)?

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[Caali]

Ok so here is my setup right now. It is a 28qt sterilite tub. I was given a zoomed heating pad and the one thermometer/hygrometer for a rub setup and told it was all I needed. The heating pad was too small I think, the temps were too low. So I started using a regular heating pad (temporarily and under strict supervision) and the temp was perfect. I'm going out today and can get whatever else he needs, which I understand is a new heating source, 2 more thermometers, a thermostat, plant cover, another hide and moisture retaining substrate. Any recommendations on specific products (economical is appreciated, but not necessary)?

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It sounds good to me
Just don't buy aspen bedding. Go with cypress mulch or coco mulch (I think it's called Eco Earth). They're better at keeping humidity. Some moss might become helpful as well but it's not necessary.
I'm sorry I can't give you economical advice since I don't know the prices in the US.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Ok so here is my setup right now. It is a 28qt sterilite tub. I was given a zoomed heating pad and the one thermometer/hygrometer for a rub setup and told it was all I needed. The heating pad was too small I think, the temps were too low. So I started using a regular heating pad (temporarily and under strict supervision) and the temp was perfect. I'm going out today and can get whatever else he needs, which I understand is a new heating source, 2 more thermometers, a thermostat, plant cover, another hide and moisture retaining substrate. Any recommendations on specific products (economical is appreciated, but not necessary)?

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Too big for an animal that size and that is a poor feeder, again one LAST time follow the link provided to a T this is the key to get that animal to eat on it's own.

To a T means same tub size, same substrate etc.

Or you can follow advice from people with limited experience and it come to troubleshoot problematic animals.

[LindsayMichelle]

Too big for an animal that size and that is a poor feeder, again one LAST time follow the link provided to a T this is the key to get that animal to eat on it's own.

To a T means same tub size, same substrate etc.

Or you can follow advice from people with limited experience and it come to troubleshoot problematic animals.

Ok. I'm sorry, there's so much info and it's hard to know who and what to advice to follow, and what not to. I read through it again and am in the process of setting it up following your instructions.

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[Rvnhawk]

Too big for an animal that size and that is a poor feeder, again one LAST time follow the link provided to a T this is the key to get that animal to eat on it's own.

To a T means same tub size, same substrate etc.

Or you can follow advice from people with limited experience and it come to troubleshoot problematic animals.

This . It still took weeks/a few months for my problem eater to eat consistently, but I also battled mites during that time. Deb’s advice works and made my girl a solid eater, and she finally took a f/t Yesterday after 6 months for me (I had to feed live, she would not take f/t until now. I got my own rats and bred my own, but I’ve owned pet rats before so it wasn’t an ordeal for me.)


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[larryd23]

In late October, my daughter got her first BP for her birthday. In July we had picked out a beautiful Cinnamon Banana male, but he was a problem feeder much like yours. On the advice of our local reptile shop, we selected another BP... a Pastel Banana male.

Our boy was already on f/t when we got him. A few days ago, he ate his first 40 gram weaned rat and now tips the scale at 340 grams. The good news is that the Cinnamon Banana male, as much as he struggled, is starting to thrive. We visit the shop every week or two and he is now eating regularly and starting to gain weight. So... keep you hopes up.

One thing I would suggest from personal experience is to replace your RBI hide with the small RBI hides. Even at 340 grams our boy prefers the smaller hides. He looks ridiculous in them (more like half in and half out), but that's what he prefers for now.

Also, Cuisinart makes a great kitchen scale for $25 that we appropriated for our boy: https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-Dig.../dp/B009L1VV5W

Good luck!