Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

[ckuhn003]

New BP owner of 3 weeks and counting......

Housed in a PVC enclosure w/ two UTHs controlled by a Herpstat2. One UTH has a warm surface temp in the low 90s and the other UTH in the low 80s. Humidity has always been on the hide side. One unit will read in the 90s and the other will read in the 80s even though they are sitting in the same spot. I've tried to reduce this by changing the substrate from Reptichip to unprinted paper and reduced the amount of water in the exterra water bowl.

The ambients seem to be dropping in the last 3 weeks probably due to the drop in weather temps. Gone from the high 70s to mid 70s. It's sitting at 75 now whereas the room temp is 70 and the weather is damp and 60 outside.

Since it's a PVC enclosure, I don't think I have many options to boost the ambients other then the following:

1. Turn on the LED light in the enclosure which has shown to boost the ambients into the low 80s.

2. The pvc enclosure is in a small finished basement (600 sq ft) heated/cooled by a mini split type air conditioner (which we never use because there was never a need). I'm wondering if it's more efficient to finally start using this unit and if so, what room temp should I set it to to achieve the ambients I need inside the cage?

Any suggestions?? Appreciate the advice.

P.S. I'm also thinking when it's time to upgrade the enclosure, I'll look into another PVC w/ a UTH and a RHP.

[tttaylorrr]

with a PVC enclosure you have two options to raise ambient temps: 1. heating the room, or 2. RHP.

i used to heat my room to 77° F and that kept my T8 at a steady 79-80° F. if you're going to go that route, you'll need to just let the heat run and spend some time monitoring temps to get the enclosure dialed in; what works for me might not work for you.

what enclosure do you have? sorry if you've posted pics or explained this before. RBI makes many different size RHP that you might be able to use with your current set-up; have you looked into that? if you're already thinking about upgrading, this might not be the most economical option, so i understand if you don't want to do this.

EDIT: regarding humidity, you might need to let the enclosure "air out" a bit; open the enclosure up and let some air pull that moisture out.

also, where are you located? i'm dealing with the same issues as you: high humidity all of a sudden and i have NO clue why, and dropping temps outside causing me to make adjustments to my tub and 20gal.

[ckuhn003]

yea, I figured my options were limited w/ a pvc enclosure. Since it came w/ track LED lighting, I'm guessing a RHP wouldn't even work so I think I'll just focus on using the mini split type air conditioner to heat the room. Just wasn't sure how economical it would be to always have it running.

The enclosure was purchased at the Atlanta Repticon from a dealer on the east coast. In hindsight, I rushed into buying something and should of done more research. The depth is only 10 inches which makes it hard for me to maneuver around when I'm trying to feed and handle him.

As for humidity, opening the door does help a lot but it builds back up in several hours. I'm still not convinced that humidity in the 80s is a bad thing; especially if there is no moisture building up on the cage walls, etc....

I'm located just outside the Atlanta area.

[tttaylorrr]

yea, I figured my options were limited w/ a pvc enclosure. Since it came w/ track LED lighting, I'm guessing a RHP wouldn't even work so I think I'll just focus on using the mini split type air conditioner to heat the room. Just wasn't sure how economical it would be to always have it running.

The enclosure was purchased at the Atlanta Repticon from a dealer on the east coast. In hindsight, I rushed into buying something and should of done more research. The depth is only 10 inches which makes it hard for me to maneuver around when I'm trying to feed and handle him.

As for humidity, opening the door does help a lot but it builds back up in several hours. I'm still not convinced that humidity in the 80s is a bad thing; especially if there is no moisture building up on the cage walls, etc....

I'm located just outside the Atlanta area.

have you looked into RBI RHPs? i think you can make your enclosure work with one. the RHP will help lower the humidity and you won't need to use two UTHs.

[ckuhn003]

have you looked into RBI RHPs? i think you can make your enclosure work with one. the RHP will help lower the humidity and you won't need to use two UTHs.

Pardon my ignorance, but don't they attach to the underside of the roof of the enclosure? If so, I have a LED light installed so I don't think that would work.

[tttaylorrr]

Pardon my ignorance, but don't they attach to the underside of the roof of the enclosure? If so, I have a LED light installed so I don't think that would work.

yeah they do. my bad. with only a 10in. depth to work with, less due to the lights, i don't think it's going to work.

[ckuhn003]

yeah they do. my bad. with only a 10in. depth to work with, less due to the lights, i don't think it's going to work.

Shucks! I do appreciate the response(s)...........

[bcr229]

It won't help with the humidity but have you tried putting a blanket over the top and sides of the enclosure? I usually throw one over my racks that aren't in the snake room in the winter, especially overnight since the <censored> heat pump for the house can't keep up if it's super cold outside, and the blanket will bump the ambient in the tubs up by a few degrees. My main snake room stays warm because of the heat exhaust from the chest freezer for the rats.

High humidity isn't an issue as long as the temperature is correct and the enclosure is clean.

[ckuhn003]

It won't help with the humidity but have you tried putting a blanket over the top and sides of the enclosure? I usually throw one over my racks that aren't in the snake room in the winter, especially overnight since the <censored> heat pump for the house can't keep up if it's super cold outside, and the blanket will bump the ambient in the tubs up by a few degrees. My main snake room stays warm because of the heat exhaust from the chest freezer for the rats.

High humidity isn't an issue as long as the temperature is correct and the enclosure is clean.

yes, I did this last night and my humidity reading was pegged at 99%. It may have bumped up my ambient up a degree or two but probably not where it needs to be. Good to know about the "High humidity isn't an issue as long as the temperature is correct and the enclosure is clean". I'll try to keep it reduced but I don't want to totally stress out if it seems higher then most on this board.

[bcr229]

What are you using for substrate?