They are trying to take my snake

[Lizardlicks]

Stands to reason that, if a person is regularly seeing a therapist, they probably have something going on with them that they need to see that therapist for. Also, turns out, a lot of people who are low income have mental illness or physical disabilities. Wow, crazy, right? Whodathunk!

But nah, I'm sure it's just those darn, lazy poors gaming the system.

[salt]

I'd like to point out that ball pythons are a totally valid option as an emotional support animal. If the responsibility of caring for your pet snake helps keep you from killing yourself then thats a good reason to have it as an ESA. Not to mention that some people find handing docile snakes very soothing and it could help some individuals with anxiety disorders.

Emotional support animals have their place and do help a lot of people. It sucks that there are bad apples out there giving them a bad rap.

[PitOnTheProwl]

What has really happened to the world we live in???

[CALM Pythons]

Am I dreaming or did I really just read all this,


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[Craiga 01453]

I love my animals. Caring for them and spending time handling them, watching them, etc... is a huge stress relief for me. As a recovering alcoholic and drug addict it is important for me to keep myself busy. Idle hands don't work well for me. Luckily, my passion for animals was reignited a few years ago after I had a few years of clean/sober time. For me, my animals can be seen as "therapeutic" I suppose. That being said, if I truly felt that I was in need of an Emotional Support Animal that would have been established long ago.
The way the OP went about this seems like an underhanded, deceitful, unethical abuse of a great system that is truly there to help people actually in need. Deciding to go get a Dr note because the living situation changed seems just plain wrong to me. It's like going to the food bank and taking food from the poor because your grocery store stopped carrying your favorite cookies.

[ballpythonluvr]

I have bipolar disorder was just recently diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder a month ago. I live in a house that we lease from our landlord through a property management company. There are some days I feel a service animal would be very beneficial but do I go under my landlord's nose and pull a fast one on him, no I don't. I have a dog as a pet and he is wonderful and my landlord knows we have a dog and he is ok with it. I see no need to be sneaky or deceitful like that.

Not only does what the OP did make other herp keepers look bad but I feel it has a bad reflection on people like myself that have legitimate mental illness and would actually benefit from an ESA. So shame on her.

[predatorkeeper87]

I have bipolar disorder was just recently diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder a month ago. I live in a house that we lease from our landlord through a property management company. There are some days I feel a service animal would be very beneficial but do I go under my landlord's nose and pull a fast one on him, no I don't. I have a dog as a pet and he is wonderful and my landlord knows we have a dog and he is ok with it. I see no need to be sneaky or deceitful like that.

Not only does what the OP did make other herp keepers look bad but I feel it has a bad reflection on people like myself that have legitimate mental illness and would actually benefit from an ESA. So shame on her.

Having just done a bit of research on OP from previous posts...everything is falling on deaf ears it seems. They advocate the use of mineral oil rubs on snakes...refuse to equip their bps with 2 hides because they want to see them so security of the snake be damned...and they personify their snakes entirely, ENTIRELY too much (they are trained, snuggle, come when they call etc etc etc...) No responses are ever given to the real advice from the pro's on here, just more nonsensical posts one after the other....

[vikingr]

Damn, there are a bunch of good people on this forum... me? I read the OP's first 2 posts and ran for cover (quickly recognizing the signs of a trainwreck)
Unfortunately came back to the thread to see what 4-pages were about...

[tttaylorrr]

I have bipolar disorder was just recently diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder a month ago. I live in a house that we lease from our landlord through a property management company. There are some days I feel a service animal would be very beneficial but do I go under my landlord's nose and pull a fast one on him, no I don't. I have a dog as a pet and he is wonderful and my landlord knows we have a dog and he is ok with it. I see no need to be sneaky or deceitful like that.

Not only does what the OP did make other herp keepers look bad but I feel it has a bad reflection on people like myself that have legitimate mental illness and would actually benefit from an ESA. So shame on her.

i have an anxiety disorder that interferes with my life/daily tasks/work. i will be looking into an ESA eventually when my life is more stable and i have the capacity to care for more than my snakes. my girl friend has her dog as an ESA due to a serious health issue + depression and got her registered as soon as she was ready; she took her dog through a training course. IMO if you needed an ESA you would have already had an animal registered before it came to the point of possibly losing an animal.

honestly this is upsetting.

[andrewross8705]

Notice how she's vanished since she "got her letter"? It's as if she wanted to throw it in everyone's face that she could get the letter and then ran off. I'm willing to bet the letter is from someone who hands them out like candy and didn't bother to probe for the reasoning or justification. People like this user are the ones I can't stand.

Stands to reason that, if a person is regularly seeing a therapist, they probably have something going on with them that they need to see that therapist for. Also, turns out, a lot of people who are low income have mental illness or physical disabilities. Wow, crazy, right? Whodathunk!

But nah, I'm sure it's just those darn, lazy poors gaming the system.

Working in EMS for years, we saw so many people taking advantage of medicaid, the 911 service, etc. It's not just the drug seekers who would call us but we had a frequent flyer who would call, wanting to go to the hospital because it was close to her residence. She treated it like a glorified taxi service then when she was finally blacklisted by the department, she pulled the race card, threatened a dispatcher, had her friend call and fake an emergency but the address was blacklisted as well and she was met by law enforcement. Same person was exploiting free clinic services (who knew that could be done!) and the mental health portion of the clinic just to keep her benefits.

I'd like to point out that ball pythons are a totally valid option as an emotional support animal. If the responsibility of caring for your pet snake helps keep you from killing yourself then thats a good reason to have it as an ESA. Not to mention that some people find handing docile snakes very soothing and it could help some individuals with anxiety disorders.

Emotional support animals have their place and do help a lot of people. It sucks that there are bad apples out there giving them a bad rap.

I don't think people are disputing the validity of a snake being an ESA. I've seen a ferret as an ESA before and it was very evident when he wasn't with our patient and how they were. It's the fact that this person is flaunting about how they got their letter and they can't take the snake away.


I personally hope this landlord makes life miserable for this person because this is ridiculous.