Stupid BP Owner

[voodoolamb]

"reputable trainer"... nah. Was just my mom. It worked for our Chow-German shep mixed dog. Given it was more of a spank than anything. Unsurprisingly wouldn't work on the pitlab...

Yeah. I'd suggest reading some studies on canine behavior and learning. Science proves time and time again that reward based training is the most effective. From pets to military working dogs.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...68159107003954

Ihavent been bitten aggressively by a dog yet. Thought a smack was enough to send a pain response which would shock the dog... much like water spray with a cat. Like it makes them forget what they were doing. Gives you a chance to correct instead of just punish.

this was what I understood, however.

Smack the wrong dog and you have a holy fight on your hand.
http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/the...cit-aggression

Good example: My youngest dog has an incredibly strong defensive drive and lots of genetic human aggression. He bit a man who reached into my car window and grabbed me. The initial bite was restrained then the guy started punching the dog in the head. Dude ended up needing a lot of stitches. The dog was hit hard enough that he had a grapefruit sized swelling on his head. All that pain response did for him was get him to bite harder.

That same dog is also slightly handler aggressive. Meaning if you were to give him what he considers an unfair correction - he WILL bite you back. My trainer was working him in heel and gave him a leash pop. Dog came up the leash and gave my trainer a good bruising bite on his forearm for it.

off topic... kinda, but interested. How about the dog whisperer? I've watched maybe a couple of his shows and I'm curious if he truly gets dogs to listen simply by poking them and making a noise, or if he trains them in between takes...

Ceasar Millan is a joke. Far from a reputable or skilled trainer. He uses a severely outdated dominance theory training techniques which have been disproven time and time again. He has the bite scars to prove that his techniques are confrontational and result in the dogs pushing back. The show is carefully edited to not show the worse of the worse.

One of the most reputable organizations concerning domestic animal behavior - The American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior has spoken out against Millan's techniques time and time again.

Any dog savvy person can see signs of stress while he is working with dogs. The episode with the tile floor phobic great dane was especially cringe worthy. He used flooding techniques instead of desensitizing and the dog was clearly terrified. Not a great option for maintaining the human animal bond.

Interestingly enough, in the 2009 study on aversive techniques causing aggression, Ceasar Millan's classic "Scchhtttt" sound actually made an appearance. And yeah. It wasn't effective and caused problems when used outside of TV world lmao

Belgian import...?

hm...

Yep. My personal dog's sire was a dual purpose K9. Imported from Belgium. Had a good productive career with several criminal apprehensions and drug busts. One heck of a dog. His pup isn't too bad either if I do say so myself