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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by HVani View Post
    What state do you live in?

    It's their property, they can enter whenever they want because they OWN the building. Of course they can't go in and take things but they have the right to inspect a property to make sure their building is being properly taken care of.
    Not true in California (and probably most other states). They have to give at LEAST 24 hours notice before entering here, and can only do so for routine inspections (i.e. annual fire detector inspection) or planned upgrades. They also cannot enter without the tenant present if they say no, which I always do because of my dog... he's legally in my apartment, I just don't trust him to allow a stranger into the home, nor do I trust them not to let him escape. So I have to check a box saying "yes, you can enter without my permission" or "no, please contact me to arrange a time when I will be home" etc.

    They might own the building/house, but a legal tenant has rights too once they've signed a contract. If someone leased a car and paid their payments on time, could the lender just go over and drive or open it whenever they desired? Nope.
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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    OP what does your lease state about pets? And was the notice given verbally or in writing?

    Based on OP's post history he's in California. So, some reading for him:

    http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/l...mer+Affairs%29

    http://www.courts.ca.gov/selfhelp-eviction.htm

    If you've been in your place long enough to go month-to-month, offer to be out in 30 days instead of going through the court eviction process, which would take your landlord just as long anyway. It would keep an eviction off your credit report and give you more time to find a new place.
    If he's in California, that makes things even MORE difficult for the landlord! It's not easy to evict a tenant here, and I've heard of cases where people "squatted" for months before the landlord succeeded. So I'd fight this as long as possible, and read that lease very carefully again. If it doesn't exclude reptiles and/or give a maximum number allowed, they will have little grounds on which to evict... and at the very least, the OP can buy themselves some time to figure out their next move.
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    I am in Missouri, and no the landlord can't just march in, and out of a renters home of their own free will. Even though they own the home!!

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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    you can get a therapist sign off on saying you need therapeutic animals. if you can find a reason to say you need them, anxiety, depression, etc. once you get that, legally you cannot be denied to live or take them anywhere. I'd look into that. it's what I did.

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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Fight it, unless you signed a contract saying no pets were allowed. But snakes can't cause damage to a house so there's no reason you can't have them, the only time I've had to tell a tenant anything like that was when they moved in with a pitbull they didn't tell us about but only because of insurance reasons for us we had to ask them to either leave, or get renters insurance which they did. I just started helping manage apartments with my uncle so i don't really know much about that but i don't think even we can get rid of someone for that but I'll try to find out, i think you can fight it though.

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    Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by xanthe View Post
    you can get a therapist sign off on saying you need therapeutic animals. if you can find a reason to say you need them, anxiety, depression, etc. once you get that, legally you cannot be denied to live or take them anywhere. I'd look into that. it's what I did.
    Got to love people using the system, and encouraging others to do so when there are people with real legitimate reasons out there.

    What's next handicap tag so you can park closer.

    YOU should be ashamed.
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    Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    no. I shouldn't be.
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    Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Got to love people using the system, and encouraging others to do so when there are people with real legitimate reasons out there.

    What's next handicap tag so you can park closer.

    YOU should be ashamed.
    Deborah

    I am one of those people with real legitimate reasons. I have border line personality disorder and PTSD. my snakes are the only thing I have that calms me down and makes me feel better. so no. I shouldn't be ashamed. I'm simply telling someone who has a hobby that makes him happy a way to keep that hobby. its not abusing the system. its pretty much getting a license saying you can have the animals because they are beneficial to you and make you happy.

    so yeah no, I'm sorry but no I'm not ashamed. I do have real reasons. and you should be the one who's ashamed jumping to conclusions and putting someone else down for having metal disorders and trying to help someone keep something in their life that makes them happy.
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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by xanthe View Post
    Deborah

    I am one of those people with real legitimate reasons. I have border line personality disorder and PTSD. my snakes are the only thing I have that calms me down and makes me feel better. so no. I shouldn't be ashamed. I'm simply telling someone who has a hobby that makes him happy a way to keep that hobby. its not abusing the system. its pretty much getting a license saying you can have the animals because they are beneficial to you and make you happy.

    so yeah no, I'm sorry but no I'm not ashamed. I do have real reasons. and you should be the one who's ashamed jumping to conclusions and putting someone else down for having metal disorders and trying to help someone keep something in their life that makes them happy.
    You are trying to help someone keeping what makes them happy by encouraging them to use the system plain simple (you can spin it however you want that's what you do) but I guess you are right no shame in that either.

    Let me tell you if I had to lose my animals I would be devastated however I would not use the system to go around it, I would fight legally if I am in my right and I would own to my mistake if my contract stipulated that there were no animals allowed.

    If your reasons are legitimate you should know better then encouraging people do do this. Therapy animals are not a group of 40 with the intent to breed.
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    Re: Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    You are trying to help someone keeping what makes them happy by encouraging them to use the system plain simple (you can spin it however you want that's what you do) but I guess you are right no shame in that either.

    Let me tell you if I had to lose my animals I would be devastated however I would not use the system to go around it, I would fight legally if I am in my right and I would own to my mistake if my contract stipulated that there were no animals allowed.

    If your reasons are legitimate you should know better then encouraging people do do this. Therapy animals are not a group of 40 with the intent to breed.
    I have to agree. I have an anxiety disorder and I would never think to do this. They help me calm down so I will most likely always have 1, but they aren't therapy animals they are just pets.

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