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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crotalids View Post

    What about these two? Do they also have feeding issues?
    Satan has feeding issues? I thought he's one to eat Brian if given half the chance. He sure tries everyday when he goes for his daily exercise.
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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    Satan has feeding issues? I thought he's one to eat Brian if given half the chance. He sure tries everyday when he goes for his daily exercise.
    I think that's why he "apparently" keeps Satan in such a small enclosure, because he won't eat if he's in a larger one.

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    That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard....a snake wont feed in a larger enclosure. I do not have a ton of experience, but the 2 bps I owned in the past were purchased small (less than 12inches) and went directly into a 4 foot long tank and I never had feeding issues with either one of them.
    Those poor snakes.....that looks like animal abuse to me. I'm all for simple enclosures, but they should be an appropriate size!

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    Ya I like Brian, I like snakebytes, and I love how much knowledge he shares with the community, but those enclosures are WAY to small for snakes of that size. Those huge freedom breeder racks are nice, and ya they are like $2k a piece, and he probably has $30k worth of them just in that row alone, but for that kind of money he could have housed them in something a little more appropriate. How does a snake thermoregulate when it is as big as the enclosure it's housed in?


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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    He moved Satan into a large enclosure. Satan would strike at the glass/plexiglass/whatever the front is made of, and was hurting herself over and over in addition to not eating.

    Is THAT better for her?

    I sure don't let MY animals harm themselves because I insist that I know what they need better than they do, and stick with what clearly doesn't work so that some internet cowboy can't come along and try to hang me for not doing it his stubborn way.


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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugmom View Post
    He moved Satan into a large enclosure. Satan would strike at the glass/plexiglass/whatever the front is made of, and was hurting herself over and over in addition to not eating.

    Is THAT better for her?

    I sure don't let MY animals harm themselves because I insist that I know what they need better than they do, and stick with what clearly doesn't work so that some internet cowboy can't come along and try to hang me for not doing it his stubborn way.


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    Probably because 'Satan' was stressed out, he probably put her into a larger tank with no hides just a water bowl.

    You carry on brown nosing and thinking that he is a god. You're clearly deluded if you think there is any good reason to keep any animal that large, in an enclosure that size.

    Irrespective of Satan's case, what about the other two pictures i posted? Didn't have anything to say about them? Or i suppose they also 'smash their head against the glass'.
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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    I'm not speaking on the other two because I'm not aware of why, specifically, those two are in those enclosures.

    If you have an issue with Brain, why don't you take it up with Brian? He's quite approachable.

    Unless your style is anonymously criticizing people from the safety of an internet forum, in which case, carry on.

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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugmom View Post
    I'm not speaking on the other two because I'm not aware of why, specifically, those two are in those enclosures.

    If you have an issue with Brain, why don't you take it up with Brian? He's quite approachable.

    Unless your style is anonymously criticizing people from the safety of an internet forum, in which case, carry on.

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    There is no reason any of the big snakes should be in an enclosure that size, it's that simple. If the person who kept them cared about the snakes and is 'passionate' they would not keep them in those enclosures.

    If it is true that she was hitting her head against the front, it's quite simple, cover it, or use a viv that has no see through front - where is all this masses amount of knowledge he has? It's a load of rubbish to be honest. Besides it's evident he is talking out of his arse, as all his other big snakes are in similar sized enclosures.

    What's the point? It's not a private keeper who would be willing to change his ways to improve the conditions his animals are in. This is a business man we are talking about, money comes first - evidently. Maximise the amount of snakes by keeping them in the smallest enclosures you can. I'm surprised so many people stick up for him on with regards to this, it's disgusting.
    Last edited by Crotalids; 10-12-2013 at 03:29 PM.

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    It's none of your business, and you're not keeping the animal. It's as simple as that. Email or call BHB about the issue and complain.

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    Re: Scale-less BP photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by spider_ball View Post
    That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard....a snake wont feed in a larger enclosure.
    Actually its quite common for a snake to go off feed if the enclosure is too large and too open.

    Open spaces make them insecure. Insecurity causes stress. An extremely stressed animal won't eat. (In many species really. Not just reptiles...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    Ya I like Brian, I like snakebytes, and I love how much knowledge he shares with the community, but those enclosures are WAY to small for snakes of that size. Those huge freedom breeder racks are nice, and ya they are like $2k a piece, and he probably has $30k worth of them just in that row alone, but for that kind of money he could have housed them in something a little more appropriate. How does a snake thermoregulate when it is as big as the enclosure it's housed in?


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    Those enclosures are boa enclosures. I also agree that its too small for a retic.

    BHB has heated ambient temps and no hotspots. That's why the animals don't need to thermoregulate. Many people have heated rooms to 85 degree for ball pythons, for example, with no hotspot.
    When you have a lot of animals, its safer and more efficient to heat the room than give everyone their own heat source. Less of a fire and electrical hazard.

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