So...This Is A Thing?

[AlexisFitzy]

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What makes you think a venomoid doesn't live a happy life? They get pampered just like every other captive snake. Do you really think it knows it doesn't have venom? Many feed captive snakes frozen thawed prey, do you think they feel deprived because they can't kill it themselves? You are anthropomorphizing. I have seen venomoids (like the one I mentioned at NERD) the were perfectly calm when handled. I've been doing this for over 2 decades, I've seen snakes of all types that were terrified of handling. I has nothing to do with "missing its venom glands." I maintain that when it's done by a vet it's no more inhumane than any other proceedure we do for our own convenience or the irresponsibility of society in general.

Well I can see where your coming from, and I'm sorry if I was a bit mean. I guess in my personal opinion I just don't think it would be good to own a venomous reptile as a pet since the main reason most people want a pet is because they want something they can interact with and have fun with. In my opinion I just think that venomous are beautiful animals that should only be viewed from afar or used to extract their venom for antiserum. If you want to own a venomous snake okay own one, but if your going to take its venom glands away then there is no reason for you owning it since its not even the same anymore. What's the point in owning a venomous snake and then taking the glands away? You should've just gotten a non venomous snake. And I think the snake would know that it's venom was gone. If I removed your tear ducts you would know. It seems subtle to us but its probably a big deal for the snake. Especially since when their adults they spend time learning how much venom to inject to their pray, so I think they would feel like something was missing. But this is all in my opinion. I totally respect yours as well and all of your experience. I just wanted to share what I thought.


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[B.O.S Reptiles]

"... They can grow to be 7 years old...
I mean 7 feet long..." This guy is turtle heading throughout the entire video lol

[treeboa]

Well I can see where your coming from, and I'm sorry if I was a bit mean. I guess in my personal opinion I just don't think it would be good to own a venomous reptile as a pet since the main reason most people want a pet is because they want something they can interact with and have fun with. In my opinion I just think that venomous are beautiful animals that should only be viewed from afar or used to extract their venom for antiserum. If you want to own a venomous snake okay own one, but if your going to take its venom glands away then there is no reason for you owning it since its not even the same anymore. What's the point in owning a venomous snake and then taking the glands away? You should've just gotten a non venomous snake. And I think the snake would know that it's venom was gone. If I removed your tear ducts you would know. It seems subtle to us but its probably a big deal for the snake. Especially since when their adults they spend time learning how much venom to inject to their pray, so I think they would feel like something was missing. But this is all in my opinion. I totally respect yours as well and all of your experience. I just wanted to share what I thought.


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That's become my opinion on venomous snakes as well. I've never been interested in venomoids myself. I just would rather idiots like the one in the video have access to them so they don't kill themselves, for themselves and the rest of us. (the press loves a venomous snake kills owner story) The "do it right by apprenticeship" is ideal, but people always have and always will take shortcuts. These people will have that rattlesnake if they want one. If they can't get a venomoid, they'll just get an intact one and kill themselves.

I respect what people have to say and they don't have to agree with me. You just have to remember when trying to empathize with a snake, that they can't physically think the way we do. They don't have the part of the brain that produces higher emotions. They go on instinct. It is possible on some level, they know they have no venom, but they don't have the physical capacity to form the emotion of missing it. People like me aren't try to be mean by saying these things to people that prescribe human emotions like this (or love) to snakes, we're just passing on what science knows to be true.

[cory9oh4]

You couldn't pay me to hold that snake!!

[ARamos8]

This is another thing that falls under the "just dumb" file/folder.

[sunshinenorcas]

That's become my opinion on venomous snakes as well. I've never been interested in venomoids myself. I just would rather idiots like the one in the video have access to them so they don't kill themselves, for themselves and the rest of us. (the press loves a venomous snake kills owner story) The "do it right by apprenticeship" is ideal, but people always have and always will take shortcuts. These people will have that rattlesnake if they want one. If they can't get a venomoid, they'll just get an intact one and kill themselves.

I respect what people have to say and they don't have to agree with me. You just have to remember when trying to empathize with a snake, that they can't physically think the way we do. They don't have the part of the brain that produces higher emotions. They go on instinct. It is possible on some level, they know they have no venom, but they don't have the physical capacity to form the emotion of missing it. People like me aren't try to be mean by saying these things to people that prescribe human emotions like this (or love) to snakes, we're just passing on what science knows to be true.

That just seems like all the more reason not to have them. What if the venom glands weren't removed properly? What if it's still functioning? It's not a terribly common practice. If someone is too scared to own a venomous snake and they want to get a venomoid, then they shouldn't have one to begin with. All it takes is one bite to figure out, 'well, oops'. Just because there are shortcuts to make an animal safer doesn't mean its a good idea to take them. It just seems like the negligent way out.

[Neal]

I just don't agree with it for reasons I seem logical but I don't want to get into it with any members. The thing is why tamper with the way the animal was born?

[Dakota11]

Just put of curiosity, irrevilant to the venom. doesn't a rattlesnake mainly rattle when angry? I mean they don't rattle just for fun. To my understanding although im not into venomous reptiles rattle comes before bite. The entire time the man held his snake it was rattling, is that not a sign that the animal is anxious and will bite. Venom or not? I mean if my corns or hogs rattle, I take it as a sign that they are not in the mood and leave them alone at the time.

[wilomn]

Just put of curiosity, irrevilant to the venom. doesn't a rattlesnake mainly rattle when angry? I mean they don't rattle just for fun. To my understanding although im not into venomous reptiles rattle comes before bite. The entire time the man held his snake it was rattling, is that not a sign that the animal is anxious and will bite. Venom or not? I mean if my corns or hogs rattle, I take it as a sign that they are not in the mood and leave them alone at the time.

It's not a 100% indicator of a coming strike. Also, while I have not seen the video in question since it was first posted, it is possible that the snake has had its mouth sewn shut.

With rattlers, sometimes they rattle and don't strike, sometimes the don't rattle and strike.