Possible super pinstripes

[OhhWatALoser]

So what happens when you pair spider to spider and the spider genes match up? shouldnt that happen according to our current understanding of genetics, lol? No, it doesnt. Hows that different? I dont understand your logic

who says it doesn't happen? there is zero data to make any conclusion off of. So the answer is we don't know whats going on with the spider. Also I don't have any idea what the spider gene has to do with the pinstripe gene? Should we talk about how pastels work also? is that relevant? I dont understand your logic.

from what i understand all spider x spider pairings have turned out lethal, so i believe that is what he is saying when he was tlaking about the spider gene but i could be wrong. as for the pin x pin i believe it has a "super" form it just takes to much time/effort to prove it out that it isnt worth it in the eyes of most breeders. like a preiveous post stated the time it would take to prove it out for sure you could be well on your way into 4 gene morphs resseive projects ect.. so although having a "super" pin would be great in a collection as most of us would love to have one i doubt many of us would take the time to prove one out. i know i would'nt i would just roll the dice on "normal" pins like every one else. i dont understand why you guys are taking it so personally if he wants to take the time to prove out a pin then let him who knows he could come back 3 years from now and throw it all back in your face

there nothing to suggest lethal besides rumors. Everything about the spider gene is inconclusive because we have next to no information. Only good piece of data I have seen is this.... http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=1#post1847606 which im still hoping they post their final results, but with what they gave us.... it is still inconclusive, but interesting.

So what is this supposed to prove? This does not prove a snake dominant. A Platty does not replicate itself.

Male:	Platinum
Female:	Platinum
Percent	Fraction	Traits
25%	1/4	Super Daddy Gene
50%	1/2	Platinum
25%	1/4	Blue Eye'd Leucistic
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Well that animal is not a BEL, nor is it a Platty..... what's left? All it takes is one animal.

Let me get this straight, a dominate pinstripe X pinstripe pairing can produce supers but a dominate spider X spider pairing produces a lethal super?

just a point to bring up, if it is lethal, it will not be classified as dominant anymore