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    I'm glad you said it because I was thinking the same thing initially. The female is already too big to be an SD. A true SD, meaning a Kayudi or Koaloata locale would be 5ft for an adult male and 5 1/2 to possibly 6ft for an adult female. I owned an imported male of roughly 5-6 years of age which was a thin and tiny 5ft.

    There are also the Honey Island SD's which are generally less than a foot bigger and slightly thicker than the true SD's. My own Honey Island female is an adult of 4 1/2-5 years old now and barely 6ft.

    Then there are the Dwarf species which get quite a bit larger. A Dwarf female can reach the same size as a mainland male.

    It's possible that yours are dwarf Retic's I suppose, but they couldn't be true SD's. The scales on the head of the one I can see are a clear indicator of that. All of these Retic sub species have different head scale count, shape, and pattern, as well as a different number of heat pits. The eye color of yours is wrong too.

    Please read this thread. I put diagrams in post #10 for reference.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148946

    Here is another thread with a link full of photos and explanations of all the retic locale's.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=169481







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    Thanks for the responses about them. I am hoping they turn out to be dwarfs. I am very new to retics, you got to learn some how. I was told SD but I was skeptical about it but for a pair at $150 I had to. I have the means and capability for retics just lack true ownership experience. I have worked with many of them and have friends that breed them, so it's not like I just jumped into it without looking. All in time. But thanks again for all the info on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Kubes View Post
    I really hate to say this, but those are not SD retics. Those are normal mainland retics and will get big. When it comes to these kind of retics, unfortunately cl is not a good place to find them. It is best to do a little research and buy them from a reputable breeder. This is what a SuperDwarf should look like...





    Where did you get yours at and what breeder? This goes out to anyone that has more info about true SD breeders. I am a ball python and BCI breeder. Again retics are a new area for me, but you got to start somewhere.

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    Cl is definitely not the place to look for hets regardless of the species or dwarf or super dwarf animals, when you are looking for something as specific as a SD Retic you need to find the right breeder that works with those animals and there are not that many however Travis is one of them http://www.traviskubes.com/

    Buying from a REPUTABLE breeder is far more important than getting a good deal because more often than not when you get a good deal especially from Cl you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Cl is definitely not the place to look for hets regardless of the species or dwarf or super dwarf animals, when you are looking for something as specific as a SD Retic you need to find the right breeder that works with those animals and there are not that many however Travis is one of them http://www.traviskubes.com/

    Buying from a REPUTABLE breeder is far more important than getting a good deal because more often than not when you get a good deal especially from Cl you get what you pay for.
    I like getting good deals. I have plenty of space for snakes. If I luck out and get a dwarf, then cool if not more snake to love and an excuse to get more retics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    I'm glad you said it because I was thinking the same thing initially. The female is already too big to be an SD. A true SD, meaning a Kayudi or Koaloata locale would be 5ft for an adult male and 5 1/2 to possibly 6ft for an adult female. I owned an imported male of roughly 5-6 years of age which was a thin and tiny 5ft.

    There are also the Honey Island SD's which are generally less than a foot bigger and slightly thicker than the true SD's. My own Honey Island female is an adult of 4 1/2-5 years old now and barely 6ft.

    Then there are the Dwarf species which get quite a bit larger. A Dwarf female can reach the same size as a mainland male.

    It's possible that yours are dwarf Retic's I suppose, but they couldn't be true SD's. The scales on the head of the one I can see are a clear indicator of that. All of these Retic sub species have different head scale count, shape, and pattern, as well as a different number of heat pits. The eye color of yours is wrong too.

    Please read this thread. I put diagrams in post #10 for reference.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148946

    Here is another thread with a link full of photos and explanations of all the retic locale's.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=169481







    Snakes, Jeeps, Dragons, Nature, & Knives.. Makes my world go-round!
    Again thank you for the links. When I got home and had a chance to really look at them and compare them to the diagrams provided they are matching up a lot closer to the dwarf retic. So maybe thy is what I have.

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