Desert problems

[kevinb]

So I was really looking forward to doing a small desert project my first breeding season out, but after reading the "do you work with problem morphs" thread and reading that deserts were on there I started trying to look into it. All of it seems to be mixed opinions and confusing. So what are the facts exactly?

Do female deserts produce dud eggs or don't produce at all?

Im going to get a desert male at some point but I'm just worried the project might be a lost cause on my low scale breedings?

Also is this why males go for about $500-1k more than females?

Thanks for clearing anything up.

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[spitzu]

There's like 500 threads about this on every forum.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-females-breed
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...desert-females!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...nt-Perspective.

http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=34273
http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=29653
http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=33775
http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=27966

[kevinb]

Well sorry. All my searches led me to conflicting info. Thanks for the links.

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[Valentine Pirate]

I've yet to see any real conclusive information, but then again I've only had the patience to read completely through two of the enormous poo throwing arguments that the desert threads eventually turn into. I love the look of deserts, and when I can afford it I want to pick one up, just frustrated with the amount of rumors and lack of information

[kevinb]

That's my problem. I live deserts but I don't want to produce more if I can't sell off the females for their problems.

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[Brandon Osborne]

Look at the MABalls videos on YouTube. Kevin McCurly pretty much says female deserts have not produced yet....slow growth, minimal size for age and food consumption, and inability to actually produce viable eggs. People have claimed to get clutches from females but no evidence has been presented. I can't see asking $1500-2000 for female deserts...IMHO it is stealing. They look great but from an investment standpoint they are pet snakes....$50. Just my opinion. Sorry if I offend anyone.

[kevinb]

Look at the MABalls videos on YouTube. Kevin McCurly pretty much says female deserts have not produced yet....slow growth, minimal size for age and food consumption, and inability to actually produce viable eggs. People have claimed to get clutches from females but no evidence has been presented. I can't see asking $1500-2000 for female deserts...IMHO it is stealing. They look great but from an investment standpoint they are pet snakes....$50. Just my opinion. Sorry if I offend anyone.

I will agree with you on that. I just wish it wasn't that way.

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[mainbutter]

For the most part, boelens are pet snakes, but I wouldn't say they're only worth $50. Even if female deserts don't produce viable clutches, they still have some value in my eyes.

[kevinb]

For the most part, boelens are pet snakes, but I wouldn't say they're only worth $50. Even if female deserts don't produce viable clutches, they still have some value in my eyes.

I agree that they shouldn't be worth nothing, but if your going to be doing a lot of work with the morph it will be a troublesome road. I wish PE was still up and going with their research on deserts.

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[AaronP]

Caramel Albinos, what else do I need to say?