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Really?? Why are people against this? If it's not suffering. I don't see any difference in this and say a bumble bee. Both are something you won't see in the wild. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
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Re: Super ball
 Originally Posted by LotsaBalls
Really?? Why are people against this? If it's not suffering. I don't see any difference in this and say a bumble bee. Both are something you won't see in the wild. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Please. Pastel Ball Pythons and Spider Ball Pythons are both Ball Pythons.... Kind of like there are human beings of different races. Differnet colors but still all 100% human beings.
Having owned both Bloods and Ball Pythons, I can tell you that they are VERY different animals.... More like Humans and Gorillas. Would it be ok for human beings to breed with Gorillas?
Nevermind... don't want your answer to that.
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Re: Super ball
 Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh
Please. Pastel Ball Pythons and Spider Ball Pythons are both Ball Pythons.... Kind of like there are human beings of different races. Differnet colors but still all 100% human beings.
Having owned both Bloods and Ball Pythons, I can tell you that they are VERY different animals.... More like Humans and Gorillas. Would it be ok for human beings to breed with Gorillas?
Nevermind... don't want your answer to that. 
Well according to scientist, I've never done genetic testing myself, at some point in the past we did interbreed with chimpanzees. Also those steaks you cooked on the grill, most likely, came from hybrid animals.
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about 70 percent of our fruits and vegetables we regularly eat are hybrids as well(and not just like two types of apples, totally different plants), it's true.
I'm not too big a fan of super balls either, I've seen maybe one that I liked, but that's it. I really feel like breeding hybrids should be done rarely and only done by those who really know what they are doing. I don't think you can stop people from wanting to make hybrids(especially with snakes like carpandros and walls, there are plenty of people willing to pay a lot for them), so I don't think it will ever fully go away. As long as it's here, it should be watched carefully and done with respect to both species involved, and the hybrid should be treated and sold as a hybrid!
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Re: Super ball
 Originally Posted by LotsaBalls
Well according to scientist, I've never done genetic testing myself, at some point in the past we did interbreed with chimpanzees. Also those steaks you cooked on the grill, most likely, came from hybrid animals.
Johnny: "But mommy, all the other kids are doing these bad things... Why can't I?"
Mommy "Because we taught you better then that Johnny... Just because others are doing it, doesn't make it right"
If you believe that human beings interbred with chimpanzees, then you should seek help outside of this forum. There is only so much one can hope to accomplish on a snake forum...
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Re: Super ball
 Originally Posted by LotsaBalls
Well according to scientist, I've never done genetic testing myself, at some point in the past we did interbreed with chimpanzees. Also those steaks you cooked on the grill, most likely, came from hybrid animals.
who are these scientist??? they probably don't have a job anymore. this is a ridicuously statment. i think you should check you facts on that one.
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I much prefer hybridization in fish over reptiles.
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Wow. What is with the animosity to these snakes??? Minus the human chimp thing thats a whole other argument.. But look at our best friends? Dogs!!!
No one on here can argue that dogs are different. They are different breeds.. And yes i know there is a difference between breed and species.. But imo not much. A great dane and a tea cup poodle are as close as a burm and a ball. In theory... And yet we interbreed dogs everyday.. A puggle..pug and a beagle... I dont see the harm in it.. Also a mule?? The offspring of a horse and a donkey.. I could go on..
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That's the argument I agree with. The hypocrisy of it. Your comparison of horses and donkeys creating mules is a great one. They are a genetically different species but genetically compatible. Mules are not fertile, however, some of these hybrid snakes are.
Mules in fact, are so different from horses that they not only have a different gait when they walk, but they are able to see where they are putting all 4 feet as they walk. Horses do not have this ability. Mules get this ability from donkeys. This is why they use mules for the trail tours down into the grand canyon. A horse would likely trip or slip off the edge of those narrow rock wall trails going down or coming up because they can not see where they are putting all 4 of their feet.
Why is it we are ok with hybridizing some animals but not others? It seems like if it's something that's been done for the last 50-100 years then sure, it's ok. It's something we all grew up with, but god forbid someone mixes anything new.
Dogs are a great one too. Where did they come from in the first place?
I agree that all species should be preserved. Especially the locale's. We have some that are even believed to be fully extinct in the wild now and are only existent in the pet trade. The Sabogae boa (BCS) for instance. I hate seeing those being bred with anything that isn't also a pure BCS because there are so few left on the planet.
When it comes to mixing snake species, and keep in mind that even in the USA, there is plenty of natural mixing of colubrids going on in the wild and locales are just disappearing by their own means, but mixing things like pythons that aren't found in the same areas, should be done with intelligence and should be properly represented if selling them.
I don't see the harm if it isn't endangering a species or it isn't being passed off as something it isn't.
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