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    Definitely a kink. The seller should have been honest about this, not cool at all !!
    Something like that doesn't just pop up in shipping.

    There is no way of knowing whether the kink is caused by temp. fluctuations during incubation, injury to the hatchling or some genetic defect in the snake. Personally, I wouldn't use her for breeding because of that.

    She should have went on to a "pet home" with full disclosure and at a heavily discounted price.

    Wait and see what the breeder will say. If he ignores you or isn't willing to fix this situation, take it to the BOI. You might never get resolution, but at least other people will be warned before purchasing from him/her.

    I still can't believe you weren't told of this.
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    Ask for a refund and or keep the snake.

    Ive seen Kinks work out of snakes that werent severe and that one doesnt look that bad.

    But odds are breeder will want snake back.

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    Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lolo76 View Post
    That's what I was thinking, but I'm very hesitant to get involved on the BOI... I am pretty familiar with that forum, and see how the buyer usually gets slammed instead of the seller. I also don't want to ruin somebody's reputation, if in fact this was an oversight - so I'll at least give him a little more time to respond privately.

    A kink like that is not an oversight, if you don't notice that....i really don't know good words to describe what I think. I agree you should give him time respond, but I can't see that being an oversight by any means.

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    Thanks everyone for the responses! I did go back & examine the original photos (sent by the seller), and there is no sign of a kink... "coincidentally" neither photo shows that exact spot on her body, and the rest of her appears fine. I agree this would be a rather unlikely oversight - but since it's actually two guys working together, I thought maybe the other one handles the snakes & forgot to tell the one in charge of sales. Just trying to be diplomatic, since I hate to immediately think the worst of people.

    Guess I'll wait a few more days for a response, then send a follow-up, and THEN take it to the BOI if I still haven't heard back... it is a holiday week, so hopefully that explains the delay in his reply. I am very upset about the whole situation, since I waited MONTHS for this girl and was extremely excited about her. I'd hate to send her back, but obviously I can't do much with a kinked breeder.

    P.S. If I don't end up getting my money back, this will be a major financial blow. I actually lost my job 2 months after paying the deposit, and basically had to squeeze money from rocks to finish paying for her... so this was money I can't afford to simply "write off as a loss" right now.
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    Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!

    Quote Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    That sucks! How long have you had her?

    Always go over a new arrival very carefully as soon as you get it...If there's a problem like this it needs to be addressed immediately.

    I always sex them as soon as I get them too and check for anything abnormal...

    I also do the same thing before I ship an animal to a customer...
    I've had her for about 2 weeks now, and did look her over upon arrival... she was pretty scared & balled up, though, so I tried not to poke/prod too much. Although as I mentioned above, I did notice something off about her neck - but I thought it was just a skin fold, from being all squished inside the shipping box. I did take photos that day, which are posted somewhere on the photo forum, and you can see she looked okay in them.
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    Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!

    Quote Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    Definitely a kink. The seller should have been honest about this, not cool at all !!
    Something like that doesn't just pop up in shipping.

    There is no way of knowing whether the kink is caused by temp. fluctuations during incubation, injury to the hatchling or some genetic defect in the snake. Personally, I wouldn't use her for breeding because of that.

    She should have went on to a "pet home" with full disclosure and at a heavily discounted price.

    Wait and see what the breeder will say. If he ignores you or isn't willing to fix this situation, take it to the BOI. You might never get resolution, but at least other people will be warned before purchasing from him/her.

    I still can't believe you weren't told of this.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. Im really sorry to hear about your job. That really stinks . I am the same as you when it comes to giving people the benifit of the doubt and usually they make it right, so I hope that is the result in your case. At the same time, they had to notice the kink at one time or another. They might have been trying to take advantage of someone they thought "wouldn't know any better". I really hope the best for you and the BP. I really hope the Breeder does the right thing and makes it right being that she was purchased to be a breeder and if it were me in that situation I wouldn't use her for any projects. Sorry for the bad news but she is still a beautiful girl.
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    Well as much as i would also like to think people don't screw others over, it's happened to me toooo many times, so i don't take risks anymore.

    I would immediately take this to the BOI, because the longer you wait, the harder it gets for you to get your money back. I would copy and paste all emails and photos you've ever took and send the link to the seller.

    This is NOT NOT NOT an oversight, that is a pretty nasty kink and you wouldn't ever find me dead breeding her, i don't want to create more offspring with kinks. This is a serious matter and the seller needs to own up to it. Granted it's the holidays, but everyone can take 5 minutes to answer an email, so it does sound like he is avoiding you.

    Like I said, get your post made up and post a thread in the BOI to get the ball rolling.
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    Im sorry but what is the BOI??? I have never heard of that I and I can't find anything on it.
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    Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoaFreak View Post
    Im sorry but what is the BOI??? I have never heard of that I and I can't find anything on it.

    The BOI is the Board of Inquiry on Fauna Classifieds. This is where you go to post a thread saying a seller or buyer was a good guy or bad guy. Most of the threads are good guy threads, but a fair amount are bad guy threads. If your looking to purchase a snake from a breeder, search for their name on the BOI and see if people have had good or bad expieriences with them. Heres the link...

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13
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    Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!

    Thats too big of a kink to be missed. Keep all your info and pictures, contacts. And be sure to wright down any phone calls. With any luck and a resopabale breed it will be resulved soon. Good luck.
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