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Cordelia's neck - very upset!
My new lesser Cordelia has something wrong with her neck, pretty sure it's a kink, and I'm very upset about this. I noticed something weird when she first arrived, but it just looked like a little skin flap (which I assumed was from being coiled on the trip here). Now that she's eaten I've had a chance to really handle her, and immediately realized this isn't just skin! I did contact the seller about it, but he still hasn't responded to my email.
Just thought I would show you all what's going on, and see if anyone can tell me what it is. She looks fairly normal when relaxed, but as soon as she stretches out the neck gets funky... it's kind of hard but flexible in that spot, and she was able to eat an adult mouse without any trouble. I wouldn't care if this is just cosmetic, but since I got her with plans for breeding, does this mean I shouldn't breed her now? If that's the case, I want a darned refund!!! Would love to discuss this with the breeder before I get too attached, so hopefully he will respond soon. 
Here it is, and you can see how it goes from barely noticeable to "WTH?!" depending on her position:


This is what it does when she stretches really long...


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Definitely looks like a defect, I would want a refund and not purchase from that breeder again since he did not tell you about the defect.
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Not really what I want to hear, but thanks for the response... now, what do I do if he never responds?
Lolo's Collection...
Ball Pythons: 0.4 Normals, 1.0 Pastel, 1.1 Mojaves, 1.0 Black Pastel, 2.0 Spiders, 0.1 Lesser, 1.0 Orange Ghost, 0.1 Honeybee
0.1 Spotted Python, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
3.4 Corn Snakes, 1.1 Western Hognose Snakes, 1.2 cats, and 1.0 dog (47lb mutt)
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
 Originally Posted by Lolo76
Not really what I want to hear, but thanks for the response... now, what do I do if he never responds? 
Gather some proof (emails, timelines, ads, guarantees, photos, etc) and go report him on the BOI. Then email him a link to the post so he has a chance to respond and make things right.
Last edited by spitzu; 11-26-2010 at 10:05 AM.
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yea there's no way anyone should of sold that, without disclosing she had a kink.
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
 Originally Posted by spitzu
Gather some proof (emails, timelines, ads, guarantees, photos, etc) and go report him on the BOI. Then email him a link to the post so he has a chance to respond and make things right.
That's what I was thinking, but I'm very hesitant to get involved on the BOI... I am pretty familiar with that forum, and see how the buyer usually gets slammed instead of the seller. I also don't want to ruin somebody's reputation, if in fact this was an oversight - so I'll at least give him a little more time to respond privately.
Last edited by Lolo76; 11-26-2010 at 10:31 AM.
Lolo's Collection...
Ball Pythons: 0.4 Normals, 1.0 Pastel, 1.1 Mojaves, 1.0 Black Pastel, 2.0 Spiders, 0.1 Lesser, 1.0 Orange Ghost, 0.1 Honeybee
0.1 Spotted Python, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
3.4 Corn Snakes, 1.1 Western Hognose Snakes, 1.2 cats, and 1.0 dog (47lb mutt)
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
 Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
yea there's no way anyone should of sold that, without disclosing she had a kink.
I agree, and he said NOTHING about this... just went back & read some of the early emails, and not a word about kinks or defects. Not to mention, I paid slightly above "market price" for this girl, since she was so freakin' pretty in the photos (and still is, despite the neck thing).
I had one slightly kinked baby in my first clutch, not even as bad as this one, and have already told one interested buyer all about it... also offered him free of charge, since it's a normal male with a defect. So I don't understand how somebody could fail to mention this, but maybe I'm more honest than some people?
Lolo's Collection...
Ball Pythons: 0.4 Normals, 1.0 Pastel, 1.1 Mojaves, 1.0 Black Pastel, 2.0 Spiders, 0.1 Lesser, 1.0 Orange Ghost, 0.1 Honeybee
0.1 Spotted Python, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
3.4 Corn Snakes, 1.1 Western Hognose Snakes, 1.2 cats, and 1.0 dog (47lb mutt)
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
That sucks! How long have you had her?
Always go over a new arrival very carefully as soon as you get it...If there's a problem like this it needs to be addressed immediately.
I always sex them as soon as I get them too and check for anything abnormal...
I also do the same thing before I ship an animal to a customer...
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
 Originally Posted by Lolo76
That's what I was thinking, but I'm very hesitant to get involved on the BOI... I am pretty familiar with that forum, and see how the buyer usually gets slammed instead of the seller.  I also don't want to ruin somebody's reputation, if in fact this was an oversight - so I'll at least give him a little more time to respond privately.
From what I've been reading they seem to be pretty fair when the evidence is all in order. I would jump all over a buyer that was trying to ruin someone's reputation without proof too. I think that if you posted a good timeline of events, showed that you attempted to contact him with screenshots of undoctored emails, and calmly laid out the facts you'd be fine.
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Re: Cordelia's neck - very upset!
 Originally Posted by Lolo76
I agree, and he said NOTHING about this... just went back & read some of the early emails, and not a word about kinks or defects. Not to mention, I paid slightly above "market price" for this girl, since she was so freakin' pretty in the photos (and still is, despite the neck thing).
I had one slightly kinked baby in my first clutch, not even as bad as this one, and have already told one interested buyer all about it... also offered him free of charge, since it's a normal male with a defect. So I don't understand how somebody could fail to mention this, but maybe I'm more honest than some people?
Looking back at the pics the breeder sent can you see the kink now that you know what to look for?
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