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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent
I would guess something more like 5000 - 7500, but that is just my guess.
i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Andrew24
i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..
Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)
A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.
The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market.
1.0: Honey Bee | Lesser | Banana Pastel Enchi | Clown 66% Het Albino
0.1: Kingpin | x2 Mojave | Super Pastel HGW | Albino | Sterling Mojave Pinstripe | GHI Pewter | Pastel Het Clown | Sable 66% Het Clown
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent
Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)
A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.
The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. 
Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
Thanks
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe
Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
Thanks
Super pastel clown... google has pictures...
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Russ Lawson
Super pastel clown... google has pictures...
Thanks Russ. I know how it looks i just don't know that they call it Killer Clown
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent
Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)
A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.
The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. 
i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Andrew24
i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...
The super pastel is 1 gene it is just homozygous. And as far as breeding goes it only contributes 1 gene, and the more there are in combo the more worth it has.
1.0: Honey Bee | Lesser | Banana Pastel Enchi | Clown 66% Het Albino
0.1: Kingpin | x2 Mojave | Super Pastel HGW | Albino | Sterling Mojave Pinstripe | GHI Pewter | Pastel Het Clown | Sable 66% Het Clown
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Andrew24
i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...
Hmm I'm not an expert but i think Pastel/ Super pastel i one gene... Pastel is just visual het for super/pastel and super/pastel is just homozygous form of pastel.. I'm getting lost LOL. but this is how it works in Co-dom morphs I think. In Dominant morphs like Spider you Can have Super/Spider as well is a homozygous form of Spider Gene Is just not visual and You can't tell with one is with but still this is the same gene different alleles
So i Agree that killer bee is 2 gene mutation.
P.S.
Sorry I know my English suck even after 5 years i US LOL
Last edited by Aes_Sidhe; 03-18-2010 at 03:51 PM.
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Re: stingless bee
There have not been many enchi crossed done yet. You dont see these crosses everyday. A stingless bee is going to run upwards $5000 if you can even find someone willing to let go of one. An lesser bee is around $1700-$2000, add the enchi to that and you judt added a couple thousand more. It is not that easy to hit three genes in one so when you do those animals go for more.
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Re: stingless bee
 Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent
Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)
A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.
The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. 
The clowns are more expensive because they are recessive. Recessive gened animals the female is more expensive and in co-dom and dom animals the male is more expensive.
I count clowns as 2genes as it takes one het gene from each parent to make it. I also count pastel as 1gene and super pastels as being two (same as het you need one gene from each parent).
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