Thanks. I'm trying to figure out how to get pics off camera to the site. Also I was told that for the humidity differences I should bring up a high humidity for a day and then let it fall for a couple days and then repeat. Either way it sounds like i will seperate them. The ball python was really active climbing at night and etc. he has two hides and bark chip substrate. there is one 150 watt spot basking light away from the tree perches and a ceramic bulb for heat. also i have a low heat mat under 1 hide. the three trees all have vines connecting them, and on one side of the cage i have three perches to climb the wall at seperate levels.