ball python with green tree python?

[Warocker's Wife]

As far as your GTP to put it in such a large cage it WILL stress it out.
not counting there is NO way u are keeping the humidity levels up where they need to be in that large of a cage and if u were, how sad is that for the ball python. U got an African animal in with a Australian animal they are 2 different levels all together with heat and humidity ect.
Substrates for my balls are aspen and the substrate for my GTP is cypress mulch.

Not only should u not cage the animals together.
But I feel from the mild description of the cage it might be improper for both animals.

Bigger is not always better. Just because the animal eats doesn’t mean it has proper care.

Ideal caging for Gtp's is a tub while it’s a neo until its approx. a year old, once the animal is a year old u can move it to a display cage. The more plants and greenery in the cage can help make the animal feel secure.

I am not trying to seem harsh I personally just want what’s best for the animals.

If u post pictures of the housing this may help.

Wishing u well

[DrLew]

I love it - everyone is an expert- and no one has offered up anything substantiated by any evidence - all personal accounts.
Lord knows 2 different snakes never live in the wild together!
LOL

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

I love it - everyone is an expert- and no one has offered up anything substantiated by any evidence - all personal accounts.
Lord knows 2 different snakes never live in the wild together!
LOL

You are kidding me right?
Is this a joke?

[blackcrystal22]

I love it - everyone is an expert- and no one has offered up anything substantiated by any evidence - all personal accounts.
Lord knows 2 different snakes never live in the wild together!
LOL

When you understand what you are talking about, then you can attack people's information. Not until then.
Most of the breeders on this website own hundreds-thousands of snakes, and have more information due to personal experience then you could ever write in a book. You really think they send doctors out of med-school into surgery with no first hand surgical experience? NO.
(If you ever planned on selling the hatchlings of your animals, I'll make sure to steer clear of you with that idiotic comment. Especially if you are permanently housing any of your animals together.)

Also, 2 different snakes do not generally cohabit in the wild very well. Species generally stick to their own species, and even then Ball Pythons are very solitary animals. Because they both take up different temperature and humidity requirements (hey, substantial evidence right there!) one would suffer while another thrives. Also, GTPs are very aggressive, even to their own species on occasion so it is not a good idea to house them with ANY other snake, even their own species.

Also, GTPs and Ball Pythons would never cohabit in the wild, they are from different ecosystems in different parts of the world.

A cage that large is also pretty harsh on both species. I would imagine that one will either stop eating, or get an RI due to stress because of such a large cage. Not to mention, finding them, keeping humidity requirements all throughout the cage, and a perfect temperature gradient are all nearly impossible.

P.S. If the ball python is climbing all over it's cage, it is stressed, not happy.

[dembonez]

You are kidding me right?
Is this a joke?

i hope so

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

i hope so

Me too...

[xdeus]

I love it - everyone is an expert- and no one has offered up anything substantiated by any evidence - all personal accounts.
Lord knows 2 different snakes never live in the wild together!
LOL

You're absolutely correct. I have never housed a BP and GTP together, although I do have both species and kept them for years. I've also never stuck a knife in an electric outlet, but I'm probably going to continue advising people not to do that if asked.

The snakes may get along swimmingly, but I'm not about to perform experiments to determine if my BP will get repeated bites from my chondro or get scale rot from the extreme humidity.

You're also right about many different snakes living together in nature, although usually they have to be on the same continent and probably experience the same climate. The region that Ball Pythons originate receive about 14 inches of rain a year whereas the chondro's home (Papua New Guinea) receives about 50 inches. Maybe I'm naive, but I think it would be a little difficult to replicate those different conditions in a relatively small cage.

[dembonez]

You're absolutely correct. I have never housed a BP and GTP together, although I do have both species and kept them for years. I've also never stuck a knife in an electric outlet, but I'm probably going to continue advising people not to do that if asked.

The snakes may get along swimmingly, but I'm not about to perform experiments to determine if my BP will get repeated bites from my chondro or get scale rot from the extreme humidity.

You're also right about many different snakes living together in nature, although usually they have to be on the same continent and probably experience the same climate. The region that Ball Pythons originate receive about 14 inches of rain a year whereas the chondro's home (Papua New Guinea) receives about 50 inches. Maybe I'm naive, but I think it would be a little difficult to replicate those different conditions in a relatively small cage.

LOLOL OMG LMAOOAOO LOLOLOLO HAHAHAH OMG LOLOLOL HAHAHAH you sir win!

[DrLew]

Y The region that Ball Pythons originate receive about 14 inches of rain a year whereas the chondro's home (Papua New Guinea) receives about 50 inches.

Similar to the plastic cages and tubs we keep them in........

[waltah!]

Similar to the plastic cages and tubs we keep them in........

What do plastic cages and tubs have to do with the different requirements of these animals? I understand that the way we keep them is not as they live in the wild, but we try to meet their individual needs. Why not just keep saltwater fish and freshwater fish together with some turtles and the Lochness Monster? They all live in water.