Will Liasis ever take off?

[PythonWallace]

I can't find 100 woma pythons at an expo, or 100 indigos, or 100 ackie monitors, or 100 cribos, or 100 children's pythons or 100 false water cobras at an Expo.

That doesn't mean that those species are not unpopular or don't have a following - right?

At the San Jose Reptile show I can honestly say I saw more savus than I did drymarchon or hydrodynastes or pine snakes.

What do we make of that?

Like I said, I've owned a Macklott's, but at least in IL, liasis aren't popular at all. I saw all of the species you named at Tinley last week, but other than 3 savus, I dion't see any liasis, and I was asking around, because I wanted a pair of macklott's. There is also a bi-monthly show here with over 100 tables, and I rarely see a single liasis animal, while there are indigos and cribos, monitors and ackies, pines and gophers, etc. It's obviously not impossible to find liasis on the net, or probably in some areas locally, but the fact of the matter is; they are very unpopular for being such great snakes in so many ways. Especially when compared to similar boids.

[Skiploder]

Like I said, I've owned a Macklott's, but at least in IL, liasis aren't popular at all. I saw all of the species you named at Tinley last week, but other than 3 savus, I dion't see any liasis, and I was asking around, because I wanted a pair of macklott's. There is also a bi-monthly show here with over 100 tables, and I rarely see a single liasis animal, while there are indigos and cribos, monitors and ackies, pines and gophers, etc. It's obviously not impossible to find liasis on the net, or probably in some areas locally, but the fact of the matter is; they are very unpopular for being such great snakes in so many ways. Especially when compared to similar boids.

Call the EBV in Berkeley - they are literally giving away macklotts - they also have some papuans - at $600.00 a shot.

[mooingtricycle]

Call the EBV in Berkeley - they are literally giving away macklotts - they also have some papuans - at $600.00 a shot.

Should totally hit them up..... Give me great snake plz. kthx.

[Skiploder]

Should totally hit them up..... Give me great snake plz. kthx.

http://www.eastbayvivarium.com/price...ythonlist.html

[Colin Vestrand]

"Savu Isle White Eyed Python"

well that's a creative name for a savu!

[Skiploder]

"Savu Isle White Eyed Python"

well that's a creative name for a savu!

Maybe I'm dating myself, but I remember a time when they were commonly called "white eyed pythons" and also when they were called "savu isle pythons".

I think it's less creative and more old school..........

[Colin Vestrand]

yeah i guess... i remember when they were simply all macklotts.

anyway, another 'creative' title...

High Contrast Carpet Python
Morelia spilotavariegata cheynei

apparently a Mcdowelli x Cheynei mutt is a high contrast carpet python?

[pythondan]

once the albino olive hits your market im sure they'll become more popular they're about $10.000 in aus atm

[kenneally1]

Te genus will never become more popular becuase most herpers today are just after the latest trendy morphs, and most simply dont appreciate a brown snake, its as simple as that.

Of the 5 taxons in the genus none are common, though savus and macklotts can be found fairly easily. Olive pythons are rare and Fuscus are VERY rare, particularily Australain fuscus.

in fact fuscus are one species that could be lost to herpetoculture int he next several years. It took me 2 years to find a pair of Australian fuscus, and in that time I only came across a few specimens and in most cases the owner knew nothing about where they came from.

The last species is the Dunns pythons Lasis macklotti dunni and they are already lost to US herpetoculture. There were animals in the US but due largely to a lack of interest they are no longer to be found in this country.

For the record I keep Macklotti, savuensis, fuscus and olivaceous.

A mate of mine has a dunni pair , they are absolutely stunning, and have many subtle differences to my pair of timor macks.

[Tim Mead]

Don't think so,Generally drab in color less the irredesence..
Much like B.C.Nebulosa which isn't particually colorful, therefore the mass doesn't desire such and they fall thru the cracks..They are more common the Nebulosa..IMO..With any luck though the hardcore herpers will keep them established here..