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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Well looks like that settles it.Congrads on hatching the first Toffee Ball!!
    Could you please post pics after each shed so we can witness the change in color?




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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Quote Originally Posted by rhachead View Post
    well looks like that settles it.congrads on hatching the first toffee ball!!
    Could you please post pics after each shed so we can witness the change in color?
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Thanks for clearing that up Craig!

    Congrats Paul, I shall now remove my foot from my mouth!!

    Great job buddy!
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    It's a TOFFEE !

    I am happy of this. Just sad I won't be able to buy one until a few years pass probably.

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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Well, methinks congrats are in order!

    Please, please, please post pics of these two as they age? I'm anxious to see this color change!
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    That is proof enough for me.

    Congrats Paul, and of course Urban Python!
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    It would be neat to take a picture the toffee side-by-side with a regular albino hatchling and see if the difference in their hues shows up on camera. From these pics the white on the toffees looks more pink, not a bright clear white. Pictures can be tricky though.

    Very cool project!! One of my favorite morphs for sure.
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Cool,

    Quote Originally Posted by albinosunlimited View Post
    here Is the best way i can descride what is going on. The toffee, candys are albinos. But they are albinos that for some reason are able to make small amouts of melanin over time. hence the color change I have seen this in albino turtles I own. There are also other animals that have done this. Another example are lavander albinos they start producing small amounts of melanin which gives them the purple color as they grow.


    Easy example
    take 5 gallon bucket of white paint open the the can and its white as day. 2 days later add a drop of black paint not much of a differance but add a drop of paint every day in a few months your going to have gray. the animals finally stop changing when you stop adding the drops of black.

    We Know that ball pythons develope more melanin as they grow thats why ligth colored or bright colored babys get darker as they grow.

    This is my 2 cents take it as you want
    So it's not a T- or a T+ but more of a T-Meh?

    Maybe a T~ ?


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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Craig, thank you so much for stepping in and giving us such a thorough overview of not only the history and personal side of the Toffee story, but your feelings about these babies as well. I, personally, would like to apologize for our pessimism that dragged you out of your sick bed to have to do that!

    It does, indeed, sound like one of the most exciting morph projects to come down the pike in quite some time and I am anxious to see it play out and watch those babies grow.

    To Paul...my apologies for being such a "Doubting Thomas" on this one. It's not that I didn't trust YOU...just that my eyes were convinced that they were looking at ordinary albinos. I hope you'll share many more pictures with us as they grow and change. I'll look forward to that dish of crow.
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    Re: TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

    Poor Paul, he hatches out a Toffee and most of us say "Uhh...no, that's an albino dude".

    Congrats to both Paul and Craig on the Toffee project!
    Also Paul, plz keep us updated with photo's of how it progresses or better yet, send me the Toffee and I'll take as many free photo's as you want!
    "If I were stranded on a desert island and could only have one book, record and person...I'd probably die of exposure."

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