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Re: Do all morphs have diffrent personalities?
 Originally Posted by Spaniard
Spiders were healthy enough to survive in the wild in order to be imported here for the pet trade.
Were they? I believe only one wild spider has ever been found, and all of our captive spiders are descended from that one animal. I have no idea if he was an adult, or maybe even a CH, which would mean he never was in the wild at all. I suspect the wobbling issues may be related to why another wild spider has never been found. If he was CH, or if he was young when captured, maybe he is the original mutant, and just never got a chance to breed. Or maybe he is the original mutant, was able to survive ok, but his wobbling preventing him from breeding in the wild. Who knows? But even if spiders may not be able to survive and reproduce in the wild, that doesn't mean that most of them aren't plenty healthy enough to be just fine in captivity. Albinos don't do too well in the wild either, but just because they are an easy target for a predator doesn't have any negative affect on them in captivity at all.
 Originally Posted by Spaniard
Adding the spider gene to a combo morph seems to strengthen it and reduces the frequency of wobbles appearing in combos vs. the spider gene on its own.
I've heard this before, and I'm not saying you are wrong, but it makes no sense to me. It is not like a spider has fewer genes than a spider combo. Why would pastel, for example, reduce the wobbles any more than the normal gene on the pastel locus? I wonder if this is just a rumor, or if it is true, does anyone have any explanation for it?
 Originally Posted by CamStatic
Is it right to keep on breeding animals with defects, just because they are beautiful? And I'm not thinking mainly about spiders, but also other animals who suffers from humans aggressive ways of breeding beyond all common sense when it comes to their pets appearances. The English Bulldog and similar breeds are just a few of the examples where selective breeding has gone way too far and animals are suffering badly.
I think there is a BIG difference between selecting for something like a deformed nose that interferes with the dog's ability to breathe, and selecting for a color pattern.
Also, you reported that one of your enigma leo babies does not circle. If selective breeding can keep the pretty color pattern, but reduce or eliminate the circling problem, do you still have a problem with breeding enigmas? (I don't actually know anything about enigmas, so I don't know how likely this is, but just asking if...)
I've not been aware of BP morphs for long enough to be sure, but it seems to be that there are fewer problems with caramels kinking than there used to be. Maybe all the outcrossing that has been done as people produce hets and combos has helped. Also, some people are trying to find ways to avoid it, for example I remember reading about someone (Tim Bailey maybe?) who was keeping track of some stuff regarding humidity during incubation because there may be a correlation.
So I think there is lots of possibilities to reduce or eliminate some of the problems that are seen with some of the reptile morphs. Reptile breeding is still in its infancy compared to something like dog breeding. I actually think the reptile world is doing WONDERFULLY by selecting for colors. Compare it to such things as the already mentioned dog breeds, or long fins on fish which make it hard for them to swim, or quarter horses with tiny feet which often caused lameness issues, and you'll probably agree we could be doing a lot worse.
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