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    Re: So...This Is A Thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    The link works for me, not sure why it doesn't for you.
    As for "worthless", try comprehending what is said, "A snake with even a little bit of gland tissue left can still give a very bad bite, possibly enough to kill. Regeneration has been reported by veterinarians who have examined some of these snakes, especially when only the duct is severed."

    The word, "especially" indicates that this makes the issue much more likely not that it is the only way this can happen.

    As I suggested before. Contact the source directly which would be the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.
    I've seen enough tissue regrowth in many vertebrates that one wouldn't expect to have that level of regenerative ability to easily dismiss this claim without reason, you are the one requesting the specifics so, do your own leg-work on digging it up.

    Also, hots sold with full venom glands and severed/cauterized ducts are sold as venomoids. Therefore duct or gland has no impact on whether or not it is wise to still consider venomoids as still hot al ethical questions on the procedure aside.
    The link to the webpage works. The link in your post above and a lot of the links in the article don't. I don't condone venomoids in general because of all the amateur surgeries, however there are a few vets that do it and they do complete duct and gland removal. As I said though, it's impossible to tell if the surgery was legit or not. A certificate can be faked.

    I do have a lot of problems with the article, though. The author, whoever it is, seems to be inconsistent in his views. A vet doing surgery with anesthesia is unethical, but a farmer doing an amateur castration on a Bull is OK? He says true venomoids still give a nasty bite, but then brings up them killing rodents as proof of envenomation? Of course a venomoid Gaboon can kill a rat by stabbing it with 2 inch fangs! I don't trust sources that present opinions as facts. The opinion that only rank amateur keepers keep venomoids is not true either. I was at NERD's facility in 2001 and they had a venomoid Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake in the shop as a shop pet. Yasser Mustafa of Spitfire Reptiles took heat on the venomous forums when someone posted a pic of him letting his venomoid albino Monacled Cobra bite his hand.
    Last edited by treeboa; 09-11-2013 at 04:42 PM.

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