When i said others agree i was responding to the comment that some breeders would dissagree with me and simply was saying there are others that do agree with me. I wasnt talking about the few on here that seem to be the same ones that argue every point i make on other threads as well as this one. Look in a nutshell i take my breeding very seriouslly and i believe strongly about putting the best animals i can out on my tables and on the internet market. This is a buisness for me. I dont look at it any other way. Therefore if i want to keep breeding high end animals as well as regular everday animals i owe it to myself and my customers to put out a good product. Im not saying im 100 % perfect with my system with the spider gene, but i am saying that since i have been so selective with what i work with i produce and sell wobble free spider gene animals. If i do produce a wobbler you wont see it up for sale. I totally stopped doing caramel stuff because of the tail kinkers. I also had a smokin deal fall in my lap last week of 4 adult 2000 gram spider females and 2 bee adult females for wholesale prices because they all had signs of wobbles. Well let me be clear there was one bee that looked clean but it was a package deal. I passed and the animals were priced at about 400 bucks a female give or take. So i do care deeply about the animals i work with.