I didnt say if you breed a no wobbler you wont get wobblers. Do you guys read what i write or do you guys just see my name and start going?. What i said is the spider gene animals i work with do not wobble and i dont wobbler babies. I had 9 clutches last year of spider gene animals. Out of about 30 to 35 babies not one wobbler. So am i doing something write, am i proving all the skeptics wrong? Am i just plain lucky? Until any one of you can prove to me its genetic or not with scientific data all your arguments are without merit just mere speculation.