Pine shavings.

[broadude]

before aspen........there was pine.

i would use pine......(if i had to..............if i had to)

i would not use cedar for nothing.....

now i solely use coco coir......nothing else!

Pitoon

(to the bolded) ....and probably a lot of unexplained deaths too. Back then snakes weren't high on the necropsy lists. It is only recently with the rash of scammers/flippers selling sick snakes that necropsy has become more of a household word (imo).

Who's to say what those snakes perished of "before aspen?"