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    Arrow possible scale rot? =/

    okay so i got my bp about 5-6 months ago and shes been doing pretty good but when i got her she had a little red scale on her belly about a quarter the way down from her head and ive been putting neosporin without the painkillers and it was getting better but now it looks to me like its drying up and its turning pink... that might sound like a good thing but it looks worse to me. so im just wondering if this is a bad thing or if its getting better.

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    Re: possible scale rot? =/

    are you sure its scale rot? Either way neosporin is a great way to treat it. But its possible that i could also be thermal burns. It would be odd to have burns in such a small consintrated area but when my snake got burns from a unstable UTH it sounds a lot like what happening to you. She was read and then as i started treating her the affected scales began to dry up and then by next shed the area was healed. I also gave her a 15 minute soak in chlorohexidine to keep germs or chance of infection from occuring. And it also a great way to keep your tank clean with a simple mixture with water. Hope this helps!

    To avoid this again:
    Scale rot- make sure that your substrate is not holding to much moisture, specially in her hides where she spends the most time. Don't over mist the tank and keep your water dish away from hides so an accidental spill wont' be an issue.

    Thermal burns- Make sure that if you heading using an UTH that you have it on a thermotstat, becore mine was it got up to almost 120 degrees which is really really dangerious for you snake. Other then that yor donig the right thing with the neosporin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe View Post
    are you sure its scale rot? Either way neosporin is a great way to treat it. But its possible that i could also be thermal burns. It would be odd to have burns in such a small consintrated area but when my snake got burns from a unstable UTH it sounds a lot like what happening to you. She was read and then as i started treating her the affected scales began to dry up and then by next shed the area was healed. I also gave her a 15 minute soak in chlorohexidine to keep germs or chance of infection from occuring. And it also a great way to keep your tank clean with a simple mixture with water. Hope this helps!

    To avoid this again:
    Scale rot- make sure that your substrate is not holding to much moisture, specially in her hides where she spends the most time. Don't over mist the tank and keep your water dish away from hides so an accidental spill wont' be an issue.

    Thermal burns- Make sure that if you heading using an UTH that you have it on a thermotstat, becore mine was it got up to almost 120 degrees which is really really dangerious for you snake. Other then that yor donig the right thing with the neosporin.
    so your saying even though its drying up to keep using the neosporin? and its definatly not a burn because my uth is on a thermostat and the temps are good also my thermostat has an alarm that tells me if it goes over or under 2 degrees i have it set for 83 degrees...

    oh and one more thing since it has gotten dry it almost looks like there is dry blood in between the two scales that are messed up but when i go to wipe it clean nothing happens so i dont think its dry blood. do you know what that is all about? it might just be me making it worse than it actually is in my head. lol thanks for all the help!

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    Re: possible scale rot? =/

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrgbb View Post
    so your saying even though its drying up to keep using the neosporin? and its definatly not a burn because my uth is on a thermostat and the temps are good also my thermostat has an alarm that tells me if it goes over or under 2 degrees i have it set for 83 degrees...

    oh and one more thing since it has gotten dry it almost looks like there is dry blood in between the two scales that are messed up but when i go to wipe it clean nothing happens so i don't think its dry blood. do you know what that is all about? it might just be me making it worse than it actually is in my head. lol thanks for all the help!
    Absolutely keep up with the neosporin, if nothing else your preventing infection, expediting the healing process, and keeping the scales from getting too dry and peeling off prematurely exposing the area too soon.

    In terms of the thermostat temp, your "hot side" temps should be around 90-93 degrees for the UTH. 83 is a bit low, that's the correct ambient temp for the snake but you should give your snake the option for a hotter area to hang out if he/she desires it.

    From what it sounds like to me, this "dry blood" is just the scales discoloring from them dying off making way for new scales to come. Unless you see actual wet blood i wouldn't worry about that. I would just avoid contact with that area as much as you can, but again keep up with the neosporin that can do nothing but help at this point.

    Hope everything is ok!! Keep me posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe View Post
    Absolutely keep up with the neosporin, if nothing else your preventing infection, expediting the healing process, and keeping the scales from getting too dry and peeling off prematurely exposing the area too soon.

    In terms of the thermostat temp, your "hot side" temps should be around 90-93 degrees for the UTH. 83 is a bit low, that's the correct ambient temp for the snake but you should give your snake the option for a hotter area to hang out if he/she desires it.

    From what it sounds like to me, this "dry blood" is just the scales discoloring from them dying off making way for new scales to come. Unless you see actual wet blood i wouldn't worry about that. I would just avoid contact with that area as much as you can, but again keep up with the neosporin that can do nothing but help at this point.

    Hope everything is ok!! Keep me posted

    i meant to say 93 lol my mistake. and im still using the neosporin but i actually stoped for 3 days last week and someof her scales were shedding in a way like the outer layer of the scales were coming of as i wiped it clean is that normal? i have her on paper towels now and i think im gunna keep her on that from now on. it also does look a bit better the only thing that seems worse is that the two scales are not tight to her body like they have a gap in beetween them its really odd looking. but the redness is cooling down and its turning to a light pink. thanks again youve been alot of help!

    also what is my humidity supossed to be looking like now and should i still feed her next feeding day?


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    Re: possible scale rot? =/

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrgbb View Post
    and im still using the neosporin but i actually stoped for 3 days last week and someof her scales were shedding in a way like the outer layer of the scales were coming of as i wiped it clean is that normal?
    Thats perfectly fine. Thats what you want to happen, out with the old and in with the new!



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    it also does look a bit better the only thing that seems worse is that the two scales are not tight to her body like they have a gap in beetween them its really odd looking
    That does sound a bit odd, do you have the ability to take a pic of this? And describe this space. is it pink or red between this space. Are these the old scales creating this space or is it the new ones coming in? Doesn't sound like the end of the world but would like some clarification there.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mrgbb View Post
    also what is my humidity supossed to be looking like now and should i still feed her next feeding day?
    Typically humidity is perfect around the 55-70 area, i don't like to let my tank drop below 60 if i can help it, it just promotes good sheds. And maybe once she clouds up ill bump the humidity to 75 or so for a day to 2 just to make sure she is gonna shed perfectly.


    As far as feeding when was the last time she ate and did she successfully eat? Was this before the problem occurred?

    Chances are if your in and out cleaning the snake and applying ointment she might be a little stressed with everything considered. But it never hurts to try. If your feed isn't successful don't sweat it and give it a shot when she is further along in the healing process.

    And your very welcome my friend, glad i could be of help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe View Post
    Thats perfectly fine. Thats what you want to happen, out with the old and in with the new!





    That does sound a bit odd, do you have the ability to take a pic of this? And describe this space. is it pink or red between this space. Are these the old scales creating this space or is it the new ones coming in? Doesn't sound like the end of the world but would like some clarification there.





    Typically humidity is perfect around the 55-70 area, i don't like to let my tank drop below 60 if i can help it, it just promotes good sheds. And maybe once she clouds up ill bump the humidity to 75 or so for a day to 2 just to make sure she is gonna shed perfectly.


    As far as feeding when was the last time she ate and did she successfully eat? Was this before the problem occurred?

    Chances are if your in and out cleaning the snake and applying ointment she might be a little stressed with everything considered. But it never hurts to try. If your feed isn't successful don't sweat it and give it a shot when she is further along in the healing process.

    And your very welcome my friend, glad i could be of help!
    well the space in between the scales seems like the scale is lifting for some reason i think it might be because of the infection the swelling might have loosened the scales....... also i dont have a camera at the moment i droped my old one in the pool=[

    as for eating goes she ate last month and than last week she stuck at the mouse but missed and now the mouse knows shes trying to kill it so it stays
    away im just gunna get a new mouse.... i plan on converting to f/t but she still isnt agressive enough for me to start that yet.

    thanks,
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    Re: possible scale rot? =/

    have you attempted to grab a pair of feeding tongs and have dangle the mouse in front of her? I usually scent the cage by blowing he scent from my mouse container before trying to feed. Once i notice the the snake has picked up the scent i lower the mouse in and she strikes it right out of my hand. Sometimes they just need a little enticing!

    Do your supervise the feedings or leave the mouse in the cage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe View Post
    have you attempted to grab a pair of feeding tongs and have dangle the mouse in front of her? I usually scent the cage by blowing he scent from my mouse container before trying to feed. Once i notice the the snake has picked up the scent i lower the mouse in and she strikes it right out of my hand. Sometimes they just need a little enticing!

    Do your supervise the feedings or leave the mouse in the cage?
    i do supervise most of the time and if i do leave her with the mouse it not for more than 10 minutes and after that i always check her just incase the mouse bit her while i wasnt there. i just think the feeding thing is because the mouse already knows that the snake is out to kill her and this mouse is crazy hes like a ninja.... when the snake gets close he jumps up and grabs hold of the tank cover and walks on the top. hes nuts. im just gunna get a new mouse.


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    see i got a new mouse today and she ate it with no problem its just that other mouse is crazy.

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