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  • 02-01-2009, 04:05 AM
    t-Roy
    New BPs!!
    Hi guys. I'm getting these soon. Tell me what you think.. They are my first breeding group ever.
    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=125850

    I was wondering if I can house two female together or all three of them together. Well, Im not going to try to house the male and risk him being eaten anyways but just asking to learn. But the two females are the same size. Can I house them together in a glass tank?

    Thanks.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:11 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: New BPs!!
    I was just looking at that ad not even ten minutes ago :P

    You shouldn't house any snakes in one enclosure. The only exception would be when breeding them. It'll cause too much stress because they'll be competing with eachother for the best heat, best cool spot, best hide, blah blah yadda yadda. Dun do it :)

    By the way, I love that reduced female. She caught my eye so hardcore.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:12 AM
    llovelace
    Re: New BPs!!
    Bp's should have individual enclosures, the only time they are to be housed together is for breeding purposes.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:13 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: New BPs!!
    I cannot see the pictures, but I would not house them together.

    I would also be worried about what you are acutally getting. Thats rather cheap I would be suspicious.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:18 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Wow 550 for 2 female fires? I spent 700 on mine, I think 550 for 2 is extremely low and as the last poster said I would be suspicious. Fires are extremely varied and a normal could very well be passed off as a fire.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:21 AM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    So I got a good deal right? :)

    I talked to him and I did asked him how I can trust him so he gave me some references even bob clark.

    His name is Shawn Barnett. I gave him some deposit money and I will contact his references.. I think it's all good.

    What you guys think of my new Fire male? Is it good quality? I think so because the color's pretty vibrant.

    Thanks for the housing tip. I will put them separate.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:22 AM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Wow 550 for 2 female fires? I spent 700 on mine, I think 550 for 2 is extremely low and as the last poster said I would be suspicious. Fires are extremely varied and a normal could very well be passed off as a fire.

    Noooo... 1 small Fire male and 2 normal females :D
  • 02-01-2009, 04:30 AM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lateralus_Love View Post
    I was just looking at that ad not even ten minutes ago :P


    By the way, I love that reduced female. She caught my eye so hardcore.

    I like that female too :)
    The other one is ugly. I'll breed her one time and get rid of her.. I learned the proper weight to breed already, but when you guys think they can do it? The 2 females are at about 1050 grams right now and the male is 260g. When you guys think they will reach breeding weight?
  • 02-01-2009, 04:30 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Oh, haha. I totally should have read through that more carefully. Hrm yeah, but that is really cheap for a fire and 2 females. But not as bad as I thought it was.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:34 AM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Oh, haha. I totally should have read through that more carefully. Hrm yeah, but that is really cheap for a fire and 2 females. But not as bad as I thought it was.

    haha!! :colbert:

    Thanks though.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:36 AM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    I cannot see the pictures, but I would not house them together.

    I would also be worried about what you are acutally getting. Thats rather cheap I would be suspicious.

    Why can't you see pictures? :weirdface

    hmmm... Try this link. I posted them here too..
    http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/Ball-Pythons-t47078.html
  • 02-01-2009, 07:37 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by t-Roy View Post
    I like that female too :)
    The other one is ugly. I'll breed her one time and get rid of her.. I learned the proper weight to breed already, but when you guys think they can do it? The 2 females are at about 1050 grams right now and the male is 260g. When you guys think they will reach breeding weight?

    I would say they'll reach breeding weight at the end of this year. So pretty much they'll be ready for next breeding season.

    I wouldn't be so quick to discard that other female ;) She's gorgeous also in my opinion, just that second one is even moreso. The first female isn't as reduced, but she's got really pretty odd markings on her. If you don't want her, ship her to me :D Even if you're not thinking of her with breeding in mind, she'd be nice to have in a collection. I would honestly kinda lean towards having a dinker project with her. But what do I know :rolleyes:
  • 02-01-2009, 03:53 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    wat is a dinker? What does that mean?
  • 02-01-2009, 04:30 PM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland View Post
    A dinker is just an unproven trait or appearance. Something you're just "dinkin" around with, hoping it will prove to be genetically inheritable.

    Basically, it's just a normal ball python that looks different, appears to have different traits than the usual normal. Clear belly, different colored eyes, hooks, odd/irregular pattern, really dark or really light colors, blah blah. Normals do vary extremely, but sometimes there's that one that just catches your eye and stands out, and you want to 'dink' with it, see if anything comes of it.
  • 02-01-2009, 04:47 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    ah. i see. Like the Lori ball! Thanks. Im still learning
  • 02-01-2009, 05:18 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Isn't it also fairly common that in a dinker project you would breed dinker adult to offspring? That way you know that if it is a genetic trait you will be getting the best chance of it passing, especially if recessive, or if co-dom you will find the super form.

    At least I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of breeders do, I remember reading about that here.
  • 02-01-2009, 05:28 PM
    Slim
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by t-Roy View Post
    The other one is ugly. I'll breed her one time and get rid of her.

    Interesting attitude. Why, exactly, are you in this hobby again?

    BP's are like Pizza...some Pizza is better than others, but I've never had any really bad Pizza.

    Breed her and get rid of her cause she's ugly? Why don't you just send her to me, and I'll appreciate her for what she is.
  • 02-01-2009, 06:03 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Interesting attitude. Why, exactly, are you in this hobby again?

    BP's are like Pizza...some Pizza is better than others, but I've never had any really bad Pizza.

    Breed her and get rid of her cause she's ugly? Why don't you just send her to me, and I'll appreciate her for what she is.

    Im going to eat her after Im done breeding her. :P
    Some pizzas are better than others so you would want to eat the good ones if you can right? Unless you can store them all in your stomach then you can eat them all.. I don't have all the space to keep everything and there are other snakes I like and Im in a project with a partner now and should have more snakes to keep later.

    I wasn't really out looking for normal females but only a fire of any sex. I thought this would be a perfect package since the fire is a male. But that's how I think now because she's not here yet. When she's here and grow on me I might change that thought.. But just talking about her making her grow on me already..

    I don't have racks and put them in separate glass tanks. So that requires space my friend :salute: Hope you understand for me :)

    I think I'll work on building a rack soon.
  • 02-01-2009, 06:08 PM
    Slim
    Re: New BPs!!
    Yeah, you should definatly send her to me.
  • 02-01-2009, 06:12 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Isn't it also fairly common that in a dinker project you would breed dinker adult to offspring? That way you know that if it is a genetic trait you will be getting the best chance of it passing, especially if recessive, or if co-dom you will find the super form.

    At least I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of breeders do, I remember reading about that here.

    It's logical. I totally agree with this :gj:
    I'll try that if I can. But what is it about her that makes her different or special? I don't see it
  • 02-01-2009, 06:15 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Yeah, you should definatly send her to me.

    I used to live in VA beach a couple years ago. :)
  • 02-01-2009, 06:21 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by t-Roy View Post
    I like that female too :)
    The other one is ugly. I'll breed her one time and get rid of her..

    I feel bad for saying this. If I can I will keep her.. Im planning a rack now..
  • 02-01-2009, 06:48 PM
    gixxerrobballs
    Re: New BPs!!
    great pick up i like that ppl are buying still.....:gj:
  • 02-01-2009, 06:57 PM
    Haitun
    Re: New BPs!!
    I like all three snakes. They're all unique in their own way, I'm not a perfectionist, I like all snakes for their own unique patterns and personalities. Or any animal in that case!

    The attitude about the snake you didn't like for whatever reason kind of bothered me I guess, even if you don't feel that way now. I own a normal ball python similar to that and she's perfect and beautiful to me. I'd be devastated if I ever lost my little girl. I can't understand how anyone could just decide something at first glance then toss her out. Even if you don't feel that way now... the fact that it was just considered for even a second bothers me.

    But whatever, I hope you give her a good home whether it is with you or someone else. She deserves it just like any other snake.
    If you keep her, I don't want you to keep her just because you feel bad for her or something, but because you really want her. Other snake owners would genuinely want her if you offered to give her away. I'd take her, too.


    All three look great IMO, you got a great deal. Hope I didn't sound like I was attacking you, I was just stating my opinion on this.
  • 02-01-2009, 07:23 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Don't worry bro. I like that. Shows your passion about animals..
    :gj:
  • 02-01-2009, 07:24 PM
    t-Roy
    Re: New BPs!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gixxerrobballs View Post
    great pick up i like that ppl are buying still.....:gj:

    Thank you.
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