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They pee when together.

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  • 12-05-2008, 02:16 AM
    trcmustang
    They pee when together.
    I placed my male spider with my normal female tonight. After a few hours either one or the other or both have peed in the enclosure. This happens everytime I put them together. Is there any sign to this? Is it normal behavior? Any answers would be greatly apprecited. Thanks.
  • 12-05-2008, 02:41 AM
    sjsexotics
    Re: They pee when together.
    I cant say if this is the norm or not but my female pees all over the cage when I put the male in with her so your not alone lol so nice of them I feel like I am always cleaning up pee lately
  • 12-05-2008, 02:54 AM
    starmom
    Re: They pee when together.
    Yeah- they're laying their scent hoping to get the engines running ;)

    Mine usually poo too :P Leave it in there and let the scent do its thing :)
  • 12-05-2008, 04:36 AM
    MPenn
    Re: They pee when together.
    Normally it means that the female is not ready.
  • 12-05-2008, 08:31 AM
    JenH
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MPenn View Post
    Normally it means that the female is not ready.

    Really? I was thinking it was the girl cleaning out her pipes so the sperm gets to the right location. I have seen a few girls get rid of urates within minutes of the boy going inthe tub. Then they are locked up a couple hours....
  • 12-05-2008, 11:11 AM
    trcmustang
    Re: They pee when together.
    I have also had them poo. havnt had any lockups yet so was wondering if they were rejecting eachother. MPenn could be on the right track as far as not being ready. my female is of weight but could lack the age. Bought her from a reptile store and the guy kinda guessed how old she was. any other opinions welcome. Thanks for everyones responses.
  • 12-05-2008, 11:20 AM
    MPenn
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenH View Post
    Really? I was thinking it was the girl cleaning out her pipes so the sperm gets to the right location. I have seen a few girls get rid of urates within minutes of the boy going inthe tub. Then they are locked up a couple hours....

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trcmustang View Post
    I have also had them poo. havnt had any lockups yet so was wondering if they were rejecting eachother. MPenn could be on the right track as far as not being ready. my female is of weight but could lack the age. Bought her from a reptile store and the guy kinda guessed how old she was. any other opinions welcome. Thanks for everyones responses.

    It doesn't really have to be her age. She may not "have been programmed" or cycled to be ready for breeding.
    I mean, think about it really, in the human world, the male is always ready but the female has to be wined and dined and put in the mood.
    You might want to try some Barry White. It has a 97% success rate.

    Cleaning her pipes?? That's a good one. :8:
  • 12-05-2008, 03:32 PM
    trcmustang
    Re: They pee when together.
    MPEnn... Could you please explain "Cycled"? If by that you mean lowering nitetime temps, I do that. Thanks
  • 12-06-2008, 12:38 AM
    MPenn
    Re: They pee when together.
    Cycling is more than just lowering the temps. It is also changing the photoperiod, making sure that she is of adequate weight, and had time to cool.
  • 12-06-2008, 12:45 AM
    starmom
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MPenn View Post
    Cycling is more than just lowering the temps. It is also changing the photoperiod, making sure that she is of adequate weight, and had time to cool.

    Yeah. This has not been my experience at all :)
    I have followed all that you mention above and have had two snakes pee and poo all over the place and then lock up for over 12 hours. This has happened several times when placing different pairs together.
    I really believe it has everything to do with laying down pheromones.
  • 12-06-2008, 12:51 AM
    Mindibun
    Re: They pee when together.
    Sometimes I pee when I'm around my boyfriend. He just brings out the best in me...

    :giggle:

    Sorry; I just had to. :P
  • 12-06-2008, 01:31 AM
    Muze
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    Yeah. This has not been my experience at all :)
    I have followed all that you mention above and have had two snakes pee and poo all over the place and then lock up for over 12 hours. This has happened several times when placing different pairs together.
    I really believe it has everything to do with laying down pheromones.

    Same here. I've seen the female urinate & defecate & then wag her tail all over the place. A few hours later...a lock! &, I've also seen them pee & poop & then just each go to one side of the tub w/o locks.
  • 12-06-2008, 03:04 AM
    mrmertz
    Re: They pee when together.
    Mindibun, you're not the only one.

    I was going to comment on locking up for 12 hours and how I'd be happy with just 12 minutes - but I didn't.

    Oh wait...I just did.
  • 12-06-2008, 04:14 AM
    starmom
    Re: They pee when together.
    Yeah- I was going to discuss fortitude with my husband after my snakes had a tremendously long lock.

    Then Derek reminded me how many females my male was being with.

    I shelved the discussion.... :P
  • 12-06-2008, 09:15 AM
    filly77
    Re: They pee when together.
    LMAO @ the last 2 posts
  • 12-06-2008, 09:32 AM
    Morphie
    Re: They pee when together.
    hahahahahaaaa
  • 12-06-2008, 11:37 AM
    Emilio
    Re: They pee when together.
    :rofl::rofl::D
  • 12-06-2008, 12:09 PM
    nixer
    Re: They pee when together.
    my spotnose was locked for 24 hours i just took him out for another female:banana:
  • 12-06-2008, 12:17 PM
    Emilio
    Re: They pee when together.
    All of mine are doing the poo pee thang and only one pair are breeding out of 6.
  • 12-06-2008, 02:05 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    Yeah. This has not been my experience at all :)
    I have followed all that you mention above and have had two snakes pee and poo all over the place and then lock up for over 12 hours. This has happened several times when placing different pairs together.
    I really believe it has everything to do with laying down pheromones.

    I agree we had a thread on this not too long ago. I believe Adam was saying they do it for scent and he leaves it in the tub until breeding is complete. As for them doing it because they are not in the mood I dont get that one. I have a female that does it 85% of the time and have a 100% lock rate with her. She will be locked within an hour of introduction of a male.
  • 12-07-2008, 10:55 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: They pee when together.
    Maybe they just gotta go? And it has no real meaning behind it? I don't know.. maybe the minor stress of moving a male out of his tub, into a strange new tub, brings it out?
    If mine urate/defecate when paired, I just leave it be for a day or so. If, say, they lock up on the fist day, and day 2 they are seperated, I will clean then; I don't want mold forming. But I don't want to interrupt them either when they're locked, so I'll leave well enough alone until the deed is done.
    Anyone notice tail-wagging in their females? My one girl does it incessantly when I put the male in! She did last year, and it led to a successful breeding.
  • 12-07-2008, 11:07 AM
    Slim
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive View Post
    Anyone notice tail-wagging in their females? My one girl does it incessantly when I put the male in! She did last year, and it led to a successful breeding.

    I did notice some of this behavior at my company Christmas party Friday night. I'll have to wait till Monday morning at the water cooler to find out if it resulted in any sucessful lock-ups:rofl:
  • 12-07-2008, 12:06 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    I did notice some of this behavior at my company Christmas party Friday night. I'll have to wait till Monday morning at the water cooler to find out if it resulted in any sucessful lock-ups:rofl:

    LOL
    Now That was funny!
  • 12-07-2008, 09:11 PM
    Icatsme
    Re: They pee when together.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    yeah- i was going to discuss fortitude with my husband after my snakes had a tremendously long lock.

    Then derek reminded me how many females my male was being with.

    I shelved the discussion.... :p

    :8: Hahahahahha!!!!
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