Fedor Emelianenko vs Tim sylvia

the fight is on july 19! cant wait!!

in my opinion, fedor will either ground him until the bell similar to what randy did or a submission, armbar or a rnc.. but i think it wont be a k.o. from stand up...

what do you guys think?

I agree arent there some other good fights on that card ?

Once again our blackbelt Pedro Silveira is training Tim Sylvia on his grappling...

I'm not sure how a 145 pound guy trains a giant such as Tim Sylvia, but now I have to root for him...even though I like Fedor more.

JonV

they dont call fedor the baddest man on the planet for nothing.

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Originally Posted by munding

the fight is on july 19! cant wait!!

in my opinion, fedor will either ground him until the bell similar to what randy did or a submission, armbar or a rnc.. but i think it wont be a k.o. from stand up...

what do you guys think?

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i agree. If it wasnt for silva's reach it would be a done deal standing. I think silva is one of the most boring fighters ever. Fedor is just a beast.:gj: Because of silva im not so excited for this one. But ill be watching it at the winghouse, with my wing basket and pitcher, so well see what happens.

after seeing tim take that one shot from andre arloski i dont think he will ever get knocked out.knocked down maybe but not out.the only way to beat him is to take him down and eliminate the reach

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Originally Posted by Butters420

after seeing tim take that one shot from andre arloski i dont think he will ever get knocked out.knocked down maybe but not out.the only way to beat him is to take him down and eliminate the reach

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you must have never seen fedor fight. he has knocked out the impossibles. should be a good fight but fedor is to powerful.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=htWaZ5BxQgk

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Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj

Once again our blackbelt Pedro Silveira is training Tim Sylvia on his grappling...

I'm not sure how a 145 pound guy trains a giant such as Tim Sylvia, but now I have to root for him...even though I like Fedor more.

JonV

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jon what's your belt? what do you think of eddie bravo's rubber guard? is it still effective in competition nowadays?

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Originally Posted by munding

jon what's your belt? what do you think of eddie bravo's rubber guard? is it still effective in competition nowadays?

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I'm at the top of the blue's now-a-days. The rubber guard is great for competition, both jiu-jitsu and I've seen some people have good success with it in MMA.

I don't pursue it myself, because Bravo's method seems to be so...off the beaten track. I would need to totally revamp my current game to pick up the rubber guard and twister. I'm flexible, but Bravo is ridiculous flexible. I try to stick to the basics/fundamentals so that when I teach I can relate to more people. Imagine trying to teach a room of inflexible people to pull their foot up to their chin...just not going to happen.

I think a good butterfly guard and side control will get the average person a lot further in the long run. Just my .02

What do you think??

JonV

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Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj

I'm at the top of the blue's now-a-days. The rubber guard is great for competition, both jiu-jitsu and I've seen some people have good success with it in MMA.

I don't pursue it myself, because Bravo's method seems to be so...off the beaten track. I would need to totally revamp my current game to pick up the rubber guard and twister. I'm flexible, but Bravo is ridiculous flexible. I try to stick to the basics/fundamentals so that when I teach I can relate to more people. Imagine trying to teach a room of inflexible people to pull their foot up to their chin...just not going to happen.

I think a good butterfly guard and side control will get the average person a lot further in the long run. Just my .02

What do you think??

JonV

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top of the blue? nice!! how many stripes?

hmmm... good point...i agree with you there. the basics are the best. very high percentage submissions. and theyre still the ones that are effective in mma.. ive seen serra roll. not flexible but he's a monster-bjj wise... im pretty flexible cos i stopped all bodybuilding leg exercises cos i gets really hard to sneak your leg up for half guard when you hamstring is on the way. it doesnt bend much. so now theyre back to being chicken legs again. i just read eddie bravo's book.. i might try to add some things from the rubber guard. but yeah, im also more into the butterfly guard. cos i saw nick diaz use a rubber guard to takanori gomi and submitted him, and i thought hmm..intresting.. it might up my game a bit to learn a few submissions from that..my style is more like the barret yoshida style. but obviously not anywhere near him! lol... what about marcelo garcia's arm drag? i still cant understand how he's that good!! how does he always end up getting the back when people already know he's going for the armdrag??:confused:

people always tell me to train jiujitsu with a gi, but i never did like using one. i think a no-gi grappling would be alot faster transition to mma. do you do any mma?

what do you think about tony chachine's catch wrestling? good or outdated?

thanks jon!

ive seen fedor plenty of times.his hands are not near as heavy or as fast as arlovski.if andrei had any chin at all he would still be the heavy weight champ.

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Originally Posted by munding

so now theyre back to being chicken legs again.

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Me too!! :)

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Originally Posted by munding

im also more into the butterfly guard.

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Good stuff! I use a lot of dive under stuff from butterfly. Here's me diving under for a sweep or a transition into X guard. Notice muh' underpants hangin' out.

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what about marcelo garcia's arm drag? i still cant understand how he's that good!! how does he always end up getting the back when people already know he's going for the armdrag??:confused:

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That's what it means to be extremely proficient at a move. We have a guy in our club, if he passes my guard I might as well tap out on the spot because I know he's gonna kimura me. There's no stopping it, he's an expert at it.

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people always tell me to train jiujitsu with a gi, but i never did like using one. i think a no-gi grappling would be alot faster transition to mma.

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Using the gi ads an unmatched level of sophistication to your techniques. The game is slow and technical. You can always speed it up later when you take off the gi, but there's no substitution for technique.

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do you do any mma?

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Not at the moment, some of our members do, though.

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what do you think about tony chachine's catch wrestling? good or outdated?

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Probably everything we do is recycled from some point in time, there's very little new stuff. So I'm sure it's worth looking at although I haven't yet.

JonV

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Originally Posted by Butters420

ive seen fedor plenty of times.his hands are not near as heavy or as fast as arlovski.if andrei had any chin at all he would still be the heavy weight champ.

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wut? andrei arlovski???? lol... fedor hit fujita with a left and right then fujita went down then he got rnc'ed. fujita is the guy who took 2-3 flying knees from gilbert yvel on the chin but didnt even budge.. gettin hit by a thai fighter with a knee to the face is like a whole different level of pain from getting hit by a pro boxer...so imagine fedor's k.o. power.

this guy messed up nog's face using a dive punch. no feet on the ground to pivot the hips.

what do you think of this guy? is he good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkAmi3NFzYM

the shorter guy is from barra gracie. and the taller, lankier guy is from new breed(used to be carlson gracie). nice ending.

i roll with the new breed guys. right now, i think theyre the best here. although i have no formal jiujitsu training. i just try to roll with them. i really like ground and pound now.

nice gi man!!!:gj:

That's a good match. They both look like solid purples. The Gracie guys are known for their guards and this one is no exception. He did a good job trying that turtle roll to kneebar/triangle/omaplata repeatedly, but the guy on top is a really good top-fighter. The top guy did seem to be experiencing some frustration at passing the spider guard, but at 2:55 when he gets him flattened from half guard the game is all his after that.

The new breed guys around here are excellent top-fighters as well.

JonV

do you do any cross-fit training? i hear its good for jiujitsu. i havent done that though. i just do regular bodybuilding, and it doesnt work well with bjj.

goodluck with your jiujitsu man!:gj: hope we can roll next time, hopefully before you turn purple cos otherwise, it would be senseless for you. lol...peace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D08E5...eature=related

the best ever.:bow::bow::bow::bow:

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do you do any cross-fit training? i hear its good for jiujitsu. i havent done that though. i just do regular bodybuilding, and it doesnt work well with bjj.

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We actually just had a crazy kettlebells/crossfit gym open here. I'm definitely going to check it out. I have enough martial arts injuries racked up that most conventional exercises (bench, squat, running) are pretty much not possible anymore.

JonV

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goodluck with your jiujitsu man!:gj: hope we can roll next time, hopefully before you turn purple cos otherwise, it would be senseless for you. lol...peace.

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Ha! sweet. I've seen white belts catch black belts, so it's def not impossible or even improbable for to catch a purple. Not to mention big fat guys always like to smother me with their sweaty goodness, so that always works to their favor.

JonV

wut? Andrei arlovski???? Lol... Fedor hit fujita with a left and right then fujita went down then he got rnc'ed. Fujita is the guy who took 2-3 flying knees from gilbert yvel on the chin but didnt even budge.. Gettin hit by a thai fighter with a knee to the face is like a whole different level of pain from getting hit by a pro boxer...so imagine fedor's k.o. Power.

ok im not here to argue but ive been watching the ufc since the beginning when 1 fighter had to fight multiple times in one night.when andrei hit tim with a right hand it was one of the top 5 hardest strikes ive ever seen.the sound it made was brutal.i never liked tim silvia but really started to hate him after he tested positive for steriods but i do say hes got one of the most solid chins out there.cabbage is another with iron in his chin.

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Originally Posted by Butters420

wut? Andrei arlovski???? Lol... Fedor hit fujita with a left and right then fujita went down then he got rnc'ed. Fujita is the guy who took 2-3 flying knees from gilbert yvel on the chin but didnt even budge.. Gettin hit by a thai fighter with a knee to the face is like a whole different level of pain from getting hit by a pro boxer...so imagine fedor's k.o. Power.

ok im not here to argue but ive been watching the ufc since the beginning when 1 fighter had to fight multiple times in one night.when andrei hit tim with a right hand it was one of the top 5 hardest strikes ive ever seen.the sound it made was brutal.i never liked tim silvia but really started to hate him after he tested positive for steriods but i do say hes got one of the most solid chins out there.cabbage is another with iron in his chin.

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wtf?!?! tim sylvia tested positive!?!??!!? lol!!!!!!!!!! i didnt know that!! damn..and to think nobody wouldve suspected him as juicing cos he virtually has no muscle!! lol..it would make more sense to test a natural athlete like randy or quinton cos they have more muscle than tim..although it has that naturally-deflated look. not the popping-out-juice-look.

well. im not sure if time has a good chin cos randy hit him, and it had the same effect on him. but randy just didnt follow it up with a submission like arlovski. he just pounded away..

i do agree with cabbage though... very very strong chin! one of the strongest. yup.

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Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj

We actually just had a crazy kettlebells/crossfit gym open here. I'm definitely going to check it out. I have enough martial arts injuries racked up that most conventional exercises (bench, squat, running) are pretty much not possible anymore.

JonV

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have you tried using GH? it strengthens your ligaments and heals up you injury faster. it thickens your bones, joints, etc.. most fighters are using more gh than juice cos as of now, they still dont have any methods of testing it.