Just got 2 pythons

Recently I just bought 2 ball pythons and I was wondering if they look healthy. I bought a baby female Mojave on Thanksgiving that was being sold by a breeder for only $50, I figured that was a pretty good deal and I bought her. She looks pretty healthy, no deformities, weight seems fine (She's 64.2 grams and 26 days old). I guess she was just so cheap for the fact she was a small hatchling, but for a hatchling she's eating fine. The breeder told me shes eaten 3x and has shed once. 2 days later I attempted feeding her and she happily took it. I'm not really concerned about her at all, she seems as healthy as she can be (at least to me).

This is also the second time I own a snake in general, so I'm not exactly that experienced with them. (If you want to see the post I had when I owned my first snake, here's the link: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-a-Ball-Python ) I researched a lot more before I bought the Mojave, so I'd say I'm ready now.

However, yesterday at my job (I work at a pet store, Beverly's Pet Center to be exact) and they had brought a bunch of different ball python morphs for Black Friday. I noticed they had 2 Blue Eyed Leucistics and I immediately wanted one, especially since both were male (I was planning on breeding my Mojave to a BEL in the future). No one really knew however when was the last time it ate, what morphs are the parents, it's age, etc. Just that it was a male (I'm sure its a male too, it has some fairly large spurs) and they said it was hungry (I tried feeding it the same day I bought it, he didn't want to get the hopper, which I knew he wouldn't want, so I just fed it to the Mojave). Since I saw it at work and it was fairly cheap for a BEL ($325), I thought I'd buy it. So far it looks healthy to me but I'd like to make sure here that it really is healthy.

His size and weight look okay to me, he's about 104.6 grams. He appears a tad bit skinnier than the female Mojave but he seems to be at an appropriate weight anyway:confuzd:
He seems to have a few grey specks on his neck, but I'm 90% sure its just his color so I wouldn't worry about it.
He's a little shy and hissy. I went to open his tub and I noticed he spilled his bowl of water and soaked the paper towel. I picked him up to change the towel and he hissed a lot, no strikes though.
His breathing seems normal, doesn't seem to have any mites, mouth looks healthy (No brown spots or mucus), scales look fine (other than the grey specks which I'm not entirely sure if it is his color) and his weight seems ok.

Mainly I just want to ask how they both look and if they look okay. Also wanted to ask what size mouse should I feed the BEL, how old do you guys think he might be, and around what size/age should I start feeding them Frozen/Thawed.

Gimme a few minutes and I'll post both their setups and pics of the pythons. :)

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Top to bottom: my BEL's setup, my Mojave's setup, side view close up of the BEL, full shot of the BEL, the Mojave before eating, screenshot of my Mojave's feeding video (couldn't post a video, otherwise I would)

I'd definitely switch up hides that are identical to each other, one on each hot and cold side. Alot if open space in the tank and open sides, could possibly lead to problems down the road with either not feeling secure enough in the tank. Are you using UTH?

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Yes, I'm using under tank heaters.

Those were all the hides I had, so I had to improvise and make hides out of dried coconuts I had in my back yard.

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Originally Posted by DerekG4

Recently I just bought 2 ball pythons and I was wondering if they look healthy. I bought a baby female Mojave on Thanksgiving that was being sold by a breeder for only $50, I figured that was a pretty good deal and I bought her. She looks pretty healthy, no deformities, weight seems fine (She's 64.2 grams and 26 days old). I guess she was just so cheap for the fact she was a small hatchling, but for a hatchling she's eating fine. The breeder told me shes eaten 3x and has shed once. 2 days later I attempted feeding her and she happily took it. I'm not really concerned about her at all, she seems as healthy as she can be (at least to me).

This is also the second time I own a snake in general, so I'm not exactly that experienced with them. (If you want to see the post I had when I owned my first snake, here's the link: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-a-Ball-Python ) I researched a lot more before I bought the Mojave, so I'd say I'm ready now.

However, yesterday at my job (I work at a pet store, Beverly's Pet Center to be exact) and they had brought a bunch of different ball python morphs for Black Friday. I noticed they had 2 Blue Eyed Leucistics and I immediately wanted one, especially since both were male (I was planning on breeding my Mojave to a BEL in the future). No one really knew however when was the last time it ate, what morphs are the parents, it's age, etc. Just that it was a male (I'm sure its a male too, it has some fairly large spurs) and they said it was hungry (I tried feeding it the same day I bought it, he didn't want to get the hopper, which I knew he wouldn't want, so I just fed it to the Mojave). Since I saw it at work and it was fairly cheap for a BEL ($325), I thought I'd buy it. So far it looks healthy to me but I'd like to make sure here that it really is healthy.

His size and weight look okay to me, he's about 104.6 grams. He appears a tad bit skinnier than the female Mojave but he seems to be at an appropriate weight anyway:confuzd:
He seems to have a few grey specks on his neck, but I'm 90% sure its just his color so I wouldn't worry about it.
He's a little shy and hissy. I went to open his tub and I noticed he spilled his bowl of water and soaked the paper towel. I picked him up to change the towel and he hissed a lot, no strikes though.
His breathing seems normal, doesn't seem to have any mites, mouth looks healthy (No brown spots or mucus), scales look fine (other than the grey specks which I'm not entirely sure if it is his color) and his weight seems ok.

Mainly I just want to ask how they both look and if they look okay. Also wanted to ask what size mouse should I feed the BEL, how old do you guys think he might be, and around what size/age should I start feeding them Frozen/Thawed.

Gimme a few minutes and I'll post both their setups and pics of the pythons. :)

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Spurs are are not an indication of sex; you need to have the snake probed or popped by someone who is experienced sexing snakes to be certain if it’s male or female.

Is the UTH regulated by a thermoSTAT? If not please unplug it immediately until you get one, all heat sources need to be regulated.

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Spurs are are not an indication of sex; you need to have the snake probed or popped by someone who is experienced sexing snakes to be certain if it’s male or female

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Either way, I'm sure the Mojave is a definite female (I trust the breeder) and the BEL I'm fairly sure anyway is male, I'd pop him but since he's new I don't want to pop him and stress him out. At least not until like maybe a couple weeks have passed. I only popped a snake once, so I can't say I'm experienced in that.

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Is the UTH regulated by a thermoSTAT? If not please unplug it immediately until you get one, all heat sources need to be regulated.

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It is not, I figured there was no point in having it since the heater is hardly going any higher than 92 degrees, but if it really is needed I'll order one. At the moment I don't have a heater for the BEL, but I ordered a 1-5 gallon heater for his tub that should be arriving Tuesday. He's currently in my closet where it's about 78-80 degrees. The thermostat is to make sure the heater doesn't randomly malfunction, yes? If that was the case, I thought there wouldn't really be a need either since its a brand new heater.

A thermostat is ALWAYS needed.
Get a temp gun and check what the surface of the glass is UNDER you substrate.

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Originally Posted by DerekG4

Either way, I'm sure the Mojave is a definite female (I trust the breeder) and the BEL I'm fairly sure anyway is male, I'd pop him but since he's new I don't want to pop him and stress him out. At least not until like maybe a couple weeks have passed. I only popped a snake once, so I can't say I'm experienced in that.



It is not, I figured there was no point in having it since the heater is hardly going any higher than 92 degrees, but if it really is needed I'll order one. At the moment I don't have a heater for the BEL, but I ordered a 1-5 gallon heater for his tub that should be arriving Tuesday. He's currently in my closet where it's about 78-80 degrees. The thermostat is to make sure the heater doesn't randomly malfunction, yes? If that was the case, I thought there wouldn't really be a need either since its a brand new heater.

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A thermostat also keeps the UTH at the set temp either by shutting off heat until it reaches that temp or by bringing it down. The Jump-start thermostat is a good one and is about $30 on Amazon. Even if a UTH is new it can malfunction.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

A thermostat is ALWAYS needed.
Get a temp gun and check what the surface of the glass is UNDER you substrate.

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I did, its 91.5

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Originally Posted by BallPythonWannaBe

A thermostat also keeps the UTH at the set temp either by shutting off heat until it reaches that temp or by bringing it down. The Jump-start thermostat is a good one and is about $30 on Amazon. Even if a UTH is new it can malfunction.

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Can I use 1 thermostat for the 2 heaters?

I personally never saw a reason to buy thermostats, I've always had my leopard geckos on their UTHs without any thermostats for about 4-5 years (I always check it about once a week to see how hot it is) and I've never had any problems, however I do have them on a thick layer of substrate for whatever reason it does malfunction. I only have 1 thermostat for my Blue Tongue Skink's light because his cage is outside and I know it can get pretty hot outside.

Ball pythons are not lizards. They have different heat requirements and not using a thermostat is a horrible idea.

I'd suggest cramming some branches and cheap fake foliage in there if it's for Royals /Ball pythons tbh


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Can I use 1 thermostat for the 2 heaters?.[QUOTE]

http://www.spyderrobotics.com/index....products_id=26
As far as I know this is one of the best thermostats. This one specifically controls two heat sources. The jump-starts only control one heat source but you could buy two thermostats.

Suggest going to the forum for care and start doing some reading. Immediately. Sounds like you needed to do some research bfore bringing home any ball pythons. They are not lizards, quit trying to care for them as such.

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http://www.spyderrobotics.com/index....products_id=26
As far as I know this is one of the best thermostats. This one specifically controls two heat sources. The jump-starts only control one heat source but you could buy two thermostats.

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Yea, that one is way too expensive for me, I'd rather just buy 2 of the other one.

i read about a thread that spoke of thermostats (for pythons, not lizards!) before buying the pythons (not in this forum) that everyone was saying there was no need to worry about buying a thermostat if the temps are fine. So after reading that I figured I wouldn't buy it but now all of you insist on me getting one. So, I'm sort of confused. I'll buy the thing anyway, I just don't understand why there's so many opposing views if it really is (apparently) necessary. I can find that link of the thread f you guys want to see it.

I also noticed most people usually don't put much more than 1 hide in a snake's tub. I'd put plants in them but I don't have any at the moment, just a lot of hides. Besides, the female's tank is as crammed as I could possibly make it, just minus any plants.

At night I cover the female's tank with a towel (by the walls, it doesn't cover the lid. I use heavy books and place them on top) so she doesn't see anything outside if that helps with making her feel safe. I don't with the male since he's already in the closet with the doors closed, he's not gonna see anything pass by in there.

After getting rid of my collection and equipment, I set my red tail up with a dimmer switch. Did the same with the 2 newly acquired bp's.

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After getting rid of my collection and equipment, I set my red tail up with a dimmer switch. Did the same with the 2 newly acquired bp's.

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That's a pretty good idea, i never thought about that. I have one but I just don't know if I should use it, my heat pad is constantly at 91.5-92. I just have it on a timer that turns it off and on every 30
minutes at the moment

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Originally Posted by DerekG4

That's a pretty good idea, i never thought about that. I have one but I just don't know if I should use it, my heat pad is constantly at 91.5-92. I just have it on a timer that turns it off and on every 30
minutes at the moment

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I never ran a thermostat or rheostat on the 40B I had. The uth was the proper size for the tank. I just cut a piece of coroplas to fit over half the bottom of tank before adding bedding.

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After getting rid of my collection and equipment, I set my red tail up with a dimmer switch. Did the same with the 2 newly acquired bp's.

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I never ran a thermostat or rheostat on the 40B I had. The uth was the proper size for the tank. I just cut a piece of coroplas to fit over half the bottom of tank before adding bedding.

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I have some egg crate, would that work the same way? I ordered some soil that was mixed with coco fiber and moss for them. I was thinking about doing the same thing you did but with egg crate instead.

by the way, the BEL tends to get the paper towel inside the water and it soaks the entire paper towel and dries his water out, what should I do? He's done this twice now.

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Yea, that one is way too expensive for me, I'd rather just buy 2 of the other one.

i read about a thread that spoke of thermostats (for pythons, not lizards!) before buying the pythons (not in this forum) that everyone was saying there was no need to worry about buying a thermostat if the temps are fine. So after reading that I figured I wouldn't buy it but now all of you insist on me getting one. So, I'm sort of confused. I'll buy the thing anyway, I just don't understand why there's so many opposing views if it really is (apparently) necessary. I can find that link of the thread f you guys want to see it.

I also noticed most people usually don't put much more than 1 hide in a snake's tub. I'd put plants in them but I don't have any at the moment, just a lot of hides. Besides, the female's tank is as crammed as I could possibly make it, just minus any plants.

At night I cover the female's tank with a towel (by the walls, it doesn't cover the lid. I use heavy books and place them on top) so she doesn't see anything outside if that helps with making her feel safe. I don't with the male since he's already in the closet with the doors closed, he's not gonna see anything pass by in there.

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I would go and get a thermostats or rheostat just to be safe, as for tubs they are usually dark or opaque so they can't see much if anything so people might do one.

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I have some egg crate, would that work the same way? I ordered some soil that was mixed with coco fiber and moss for them. I was thinking about doing the same thing you did but with egg crate instead.

by the way, the BEL tends to get the paper towel inside the water and it soaks the entire paper towel and dries his water out, what should I do? He's done this twice now.

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Maybe try newspaper, brown paper or meat paper.

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As others have said, thermostats are not optional for ball pythons. An unregulated UTH will burn a BP as they burrow or push down to the bottom of the tank where the UTH is.

Jumpstarts are $20 right now on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NZZG3S

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As others have said, thermostats are not optional for ball pythons. An unregulated UTH will burn a BP as they burrow or push down to the bottom of the tank where the UTH is.

Jumpstarts are $20 right now on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NZZG3S

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I ordered 1 for now, it should arrive Thursday. By my next paycheck I'll order another one

Excellent! If you need help on where to place the probe, just ask. Probe goes in contact with the UTH outside the enclosure.

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Excellent! If you need help on where to place the probe, just ask. Probe goes in contact with the UTH outside the enclosure.

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Is the probe small enough to fit under the tank and not get squashed? The one I have for my blue tongue Skink has a pretty thick cable and a probe that's like an inch long

Now that the whole Thermostat topic has been resolved, is there anything else? Do the snakes seem healthy? Are the setups ok (besides the lack of plants)? I'm assuming everything else is fine since everyone was occupied about the thermostat and ignored almost everything else.

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Is the probe small enough to fit under the tank and not get squashed? The one I have for my blue tongue Skink has a pretty thick cable and a probe that's like an inch long.

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Ideally you wedge the probe between the UTH and the glass but those zoomed UTHs are often to bulky to do that so in that case you tape it (no tape on that actual probe but on the cord) to the UTH and use styrofoam to keep it in place.

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Ideally you wedge the probe between the UTH and the glass but those zoomed UTHs are often to bulky to do that so in that case you tape it (no tape on that actual probe but on the cord) to the UTH and use styrofoam to keep it in place.

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Alrighty, will do that soon as it arrives.

Also wanted to ask, my BEL roams in his tub a lot more than my mojave, I'm assuming this may be because he's looking for somewhere warm? When I open his tub he doesn't seem to mind my presence. I put my hand in the tub to see his reaction and he simply climbs up. Is it okay for me to do this repeatedly (by repeatedly I mean roughly every time I see him out roaming for an extended amount of time, holding for about 10 minutes per time)? I thought it would be good since my hands could warm him up a bit and he doesn't seem to mind at all since he's approaching me rather than me picking him straight out. He didn't seem stressed/scared (Relaxed breathing, no flinching, wasn't balling up, nor did he have that S shape posture) over the whole ordeal.

My Mojave however has been hiding a lot. I haven't handled her since the day that I first got her. Currently she's hiding in the Gelato container. I'm assuming I shouldn't handle her at all unless she clearly doesn't mind going near my hand? I know I shouldn't handle them (or just about any animal, really) when they're in their hide. I only did it once to the BEL because he got the paper towel in to the bowl and soaked the whole paper. Other than that, I haven't done anything else handling wise.

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Alrighty, will do that soon as it arrives.

Also wanted to ask, my BEL roams in his tub a lot more than my mojave, I'm assuming this may be because he's looking for somewhere warm? When I open his tub he doesn't seem to mind my presence. I put my hand in the tub to see his reaction and he simply climbs up. Is it okay for me to do this repeatedly (by repeatedly I mean roughly every time I see him out roaming for an extended amount of time, holding for about 10 minutes per time)? I thought it would be good since my hands could warm him up a bit and he doesn't seem to mind at all since he's approaching me rather than me picking him straight out. He didn't seem stressed/scared (Relaxed breathing, no flinching, wasn't balling up, nor did he have that S shape posture) over the whole ordeal.

My Mojave however has been hiding a lot. I haven't handled her since the day that I first got her. Currently she's hiding in the Gelato container. I'm assuming I shouldn't handle her at all unless she clearly doesn't mind going near my hand? I know I shouldn't handle them (or just about any animal, really) when they're in their hide. I only did it once to the BEL because he got the paper towel in to the bowl and soaked the whole paper. Other than that, I haven't done anything else handling wise.

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Don't handle new snakes for at least a week. Give them that time to de-stress and know their surroundings. After that handle as much as you like providing you give them 24-48 hours after meals to digest. If mine are in hides, I shake the hide a bit to wake them, then lift hide and get them out.

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Don't handle new snakes for at least a week. Give them that time to de-stress and know their surroundings.

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Even if they don't seem to mind it?

Well one thing I failed to remember was to place something heavy on the lid of the female. Now she's loose somewhere in the house :(

i checked everywhere in my house, closets, shoes, beds, couches, sofas, anything on the floor, dressers, shelves, under everything, all rooms in the house, and near other tubs. She can't have gone outside the house, there's no hole that leads outside.

She escaped this this morning and I've been frantically trying to find her all day. Now I've tried placing her hides from her cage, hopefully she smells that it's familiar and she can feel safe in it and go in there. I'd place the heat mat but if I place it of the floor without anything she'll get burned if she gets on it. What else should I do?

I figured she has to be somewhere in my room, my door was closed before she escaped and I doubt she could fit under the doors gap. I checked the whole house regardless however. I've also placed towels under the door gaps so it'll trap her in if she is in my room.

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Well one thing I failed to remember was to place something heavy on the lid of the female. Now she's loose somewhere in the house :(

i checked everywhere in my house, closets, shoes, beds, couches, sofas, anything on the floor, dressers, shelves, under everything, all rooms in the house, and near other tubs. She can't have gone outside the house, there's no hole that leads outside.

She escaped this this morning and I've been frantically trying to find her all day. Now I've tried placing her hides from her cage, hopefully she smells that it's familiar and she can feel safe in it and go in there. I'd place the heat mat but if I place it of the floor without anything she'll get burned if she gets on it. What else should I do?

I figured she has to be somewhere in my room, my door was closed before she escaped and I doubt she could fit under the doors gap. I checked the whole house regardless however. I've also placed towels under the door gaps so it'll trap her in if she is in my room.

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Best thing to do is get a small ventilated plastic container and put a mouse in it and place container in middle of room. The smell could drive a hungry snake out.

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Best thing to do is get a small ventilated plastic container and put a mouse in it and place container in middle of room. The smell could drive a hungry snake out.

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We're talking Royal / Ball pythons here though ... I'd be more confident using that method with King snakes or the like ...

Worth a try though of course ..


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Well one thing I failed to remember was to place something heavy on the lid of the female. Now she's loose somewhere in the house [emoji20]

i checked everywhere in my house, closets, shoes, beds, couches, sofas, anything on the floor, dressers, shelves, under everything, all rooms in the house, and near other tubs. She can't have gone outside the house, there's no hole that leads outside.

She escaped this this morning and I've been frantically trying to find her all day. Now I've tried placing her hides from her cage, hopefully she smells that it's familiar and she can feel safe in it and go in there. I'd place the heat mat but if I place it of the floor without anything she'll get burned if she gets on it. What else should I do?

I figured she has to be somewhere in my room, my door was closed before she escaped and I doubt she could fit under the doors gap. I checked the whole house regardless however. I've also placed towels under the door gaps so it'll trap her in if she is in my room.

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I really wouldn't know where to start on this .. so I'll let the others have a go .. they normally head for some kind of heat source where it's quiet and dark - think like a snake - electric items are popular

I would just leave this though ..

I had an escapee a few weeks ago and I left his setup on the floor with the front door open .... heat mat (regulated by a thermostat )on and fresh water - he turned up ten days later presumably for the heat ... he was curled up asleep when I checked one morning ..


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We're talking Royal / Ball pythons here though ... I'd be more confident using that method with King snakes or the like ...

Worth a try though of course ..


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Yep. Why I said could.

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Yep. Why I said could.

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The only other thing that I can suggest is to sprinkle talc powder or baking flour all around the skirting boards and at least it shows whereabouts or which rooms they are using ... as they're drawn towards the walls of course ..

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Best thing to do is get a small ventilated plastic container and put a mouse in it and place container in middle of room. The smell could drive a hungry snake out.

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I mean I doubt she's hungry, she ate just last Friday. Should I use live or dead?

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I really wouldn't know where to start on this .. so I'll let the others have a go .. they normally head for some kind of heat source where it's quiet and dark - think like a snake - electric items are popular

I would just leave this though ..

I had an escapee a few weeks ago and I left his setup on the floor with the front door open .... heat mat (regulated by a thermostat )on and fresh water - he turned up ten days later presumably for the heat ... he was curled up asleep when I checked one morning ..

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I had checked every corner, every item on the floor, every place that had a potential hiding hole. The only thing I have in my house that gives off warmth is the bottom of my fridge and I already checked that. I don't have anything electrical on the floor that can give off heat. Since her setup is a tank, I'm gonna have to flip it on its side for that.

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The only other thing that I can suggest is to sprinkle talc powder or baking flour all around the skirting boards and at least it shows whereabouts or which rooms they are using ... as they're drawn towards the walls of course ..

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Only rooms she could possibly be is my room, my parents' room, kitchen or the living room out of 3 other rooms. However she's most likely in my room, I guess I could try that if all else fails.

My self I'd go with live. But like Zin said, try the flour or powder method first.

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My self I'd go with live. But like Zin said, try the flour or powder method first.

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Is it possible for them to detect heat from across the room? I turned her heat pad on and put the tank on its side for her to crawl in along with a hide on top of the heat mat.

Should I put the powder at night? Knowing her, she doesn't like to come out of her hide at all until its night time.

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Is it possible for them to detect heat from across the room? I turned her heat pad on and put the tank on its side for her to crawl in along with a hide on top of the heat mat.

Should I put the powder at night? Knowing her, she doesn't like to come out of her hide at all until its night time.

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Yes it's possible. But put flour/powder down when you get home if not there now. But can I ask a question? A couple weeks ago my red tail got out and I found him (after an hour) behind enclosure snuggled in a towel I used at night to cover him. Have you checked around the enclosure?

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Yes it's possible. But put flour/powder down when you get home if not there now. But can I ask a question? A couple weeks ago my red tail got out and I found him (after an hour) behind enclosure snuggled in a towel I used at night to cover him. Have you checked around the enclosure?

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I forgot to mention that my dad has some CCTV cameras that has night vision. I just remembered he had 8 spares. This is a good idea to use, right?

And yes I checked everywhere near the enclosure (My entire room, or at least everywhere I could possibly think of) her enclosure is backed against a wall and the left and right side or in the open. There's no where around the tank where she could hide. So far it's been a day. How long can they go without drinking water? I'm sure she has to go out and find a source of water soon.

As regards them searching out heat ... I've read accounts of them being found in tiny , cramped places and in washing machines , cooker ovens , Desktop PCs , on those power cable multi plug extension leads , towel cupboards .... they love climbing and quite often start moving upwards off the floor so ....


As I mentioned my escaped LTR was lured back into its viv after I placed it one the floor of the snake room - just heat and water enticed him back - just left the glass door open so he was able to climb back in .... ten days or so , later

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Originally Posted by DerekG4

Well one thing I failed to remember was to place something heavy on the lid of the female. Now she's loose somewhere in the house :(

i checked everywhere in my house, closets, shoes, beds, couches, sofas, anything on the floor, dressers, shelves, under everything, all rooms in the house, and near other tubs. She can't have gone outside the house, there's no hole that leads outside.

She escaped this this morning and I've been frantically trying to find her all day. Now I've tried placing her hides from her cage, hopefully she smells that it's familiar and she can feel safe in it and go in there. I'd place the heat mat but if I place it of the floor without anything she'll get burned if she gets on it. What else should I do?

I figured she has to be somewhere in my room, my door was closed before she escaped and I doubt she could fit under the doors gap. I checked the whole house regardless however. I've also placed towels under the door gaps so it'll trap her in if she is in my room.

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You should get some tank locks or clips. I use ones like these, I have a rock on the lid just to be safe.

Night vision mighy not pick up too well with a cold blooded animal. I have never tried.

Well, I finally found her :D.
She was on top of a dresser in my closet that had a couple of stacked DVDs and CDs. I just don't understand how she managed to get up there because there's not a single thing by it, no sticks or boxes or anything that could've possibly helped her climb something so tall and smooth, there wasn't any holes on/in it that could've helped her either.
Whatever though, I finally found her and I'm glad she's fine and back in her enclosure. Found her around 12:30, about 3 hours ago.

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Originally Posted by MD_Pythons

You should get some tank locks or clips. I use ones like these, I have a rock on the lid just to be safe.

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At the moment I have a large, heavy book on the right side and a guitar pedal on the left that weighs about 10 pounds on the lid. I was planning on buying one of these but I didn't think they were so cheap. Would that 30 gallon clip work for a 10 gallon tank? (Never mind, just read "fits 29 gallon and smaller") I'm assuming they're pretty reliable.

Great news !!!

As regards the weights on the lid .... never underestimate the power of a trapped snake !! They can sense weakness in their enclosures and will concentrate their energy into that area ..


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Way to go

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