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  • 12-01-2013, 05:08 PM
    maxamilliano
    ball oython humidity
    I have a bp and I have it on aspen fibers and I can't keep the humidity up but I've cut Plexiglas to fit most of the top.
    I was thinking to mix coco fibers with aspen but I don't know what to do I need help
  • 12-01-2013, 05:13 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Aspen can mold easily if ya temps are too cool and it gets to moist,I've had that experience once...I'd leave a WET not damp,THICK towel on top the screen,covering most the screen..I also add tup o ware container filled with wett not damp sphagnum moss,right on top of my hot side hide below the heat lamp..that helps let off humidity as well..but I'm making the switch to Eco earth and repti bark/coco husk. I like the way it holds humidity way better and my snake had a 100 % perfect 1 full pieces shed..I'm done with aspen
  • 12-01-2013, 05:13 PM
    Physician&Snakes
    Re: ball oython humidity
    I would remove the aspen and simply use cypress or coconut bark. Aspen has little resistance to mold so mixing it with something like coconut is similar to mixing oil and water.
  • 12-01-2013, 05:15 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Welcome to the site!

    Don't mix aspen with another substrate that holds more moisture. If you do that the aspen will grow mold very quickly.

    Switching to coco husk substrate like Eco-Earth will help with your humidity issue, as will switching to cypress mulch.

    What are you using to heat the cage?
    What are you using to measure temperatures/humidity in the cage?
    What are your current cage temperatures/humidity?
    What size cage do you have?
  • 12-01-2013, 05:24 PM
    maxamilliano
    I have a 55 gallon tank and I use a 100 watt light bulb. My room is about 80 all the time
  • 12-01-2013, 05:28 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maxamilliano View Post
    I have a 55 gallon tank and I use a 100 watt light bulb. My room is about 80 all the time

    Is it just a regular light bulb?

    If so you can probably use a much lower wattage heat bulb like the 50 watt version of this infrared bulb:

    http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...AvailInUS%2FNo
  • 12-01-2013, 05:38 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Physician&Snakes View Post
    I would remove the aspen and simply use cypress or coconut bark. Aspen has little resistance to mold so mixing it with something like coconut is similar to mixing oil and water.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maxamilliano View Post
    I have a 55 gallon tank and I use a 100 watt light bulb. My room is about 80 all the time

    I'm shocked a 100 watt bulb,although your room temp is 80 keeps your 55 gallon warm enough for your snake...I have a 29 gallon high,my apt stays around 68-84 year round and a 100 watt keep my tank in the 86-90 temp range,hot side that is..

    hope you have a UTH.. I'd just get rid of the aspen,add some more heat from your lighting and switch to eco earth,coco husk,repti bark,cypress mulch,which every one or couple you choose to use...just make sure you spray down and wett the substrate but also make sure u have enough heat to adventually dry it out..I'm lrg try are from what I've read around here,scale rot in common from to much dampness.
  • 12-01-2013, 05:39 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Is it just a regular light bulb?

    If so you can probably use a much lower wattage heat bulb like the 50 watt version of this infrared bulb:

    http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...AvailInUS%2FNo

    50 watt bulb for a tank that is 55 gallon,no way will that keep the tank warm enough..I know you know more than me ,but I don't agree with that..my 20 gallon long has a screen top,I cover most all of it and use a 50-75 watt bulbs
  • 12-01-2013, 05:41 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    If the room is that warm all the time you could also switch to an Under Tank Heater (UTH) and stop using lights all together. UTH's don't heat the air in the cage so they don't remove any of the humidity.

    UTH's require 3 things to work properly.

    1. A thermostat controlling them.
    2. A probed thermometer to monitor them.
    3. A thin substrate layer ½" thick or less.

    Here are some good thermostats, stay away from the junk sold in petstores:

    Budget: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NZ...dir_mdp_mobile

    Mid-Range: http://www.reptilebasics.com/thermos...stat-prewired/

    Best: http://spyderrobotics.com/home/products.html

    Here is a good probed thermometer:

    http://www.walmart.com/msharbor/ip/8...81640&veh=mweb
  • 12-01-2013, 05:42 PM
    Mike41793
    ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    I know you know more than me

    Accepting this fact will get you through life a lot faster buddy
  • 12-01-2013, 05:42 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    50 watt bulb for a tank that is 55 gallon,no way will that keep the tank warm enough..I know you know more than me ,but I don't agree with that..my 20 gallon long has a screen top,I cover most all of it and use a 50-75 watt bulbs

    If the OP's room is already 80 degrees it really shouldn't take much to create a 90 degree hot side.
  • 12-01-2013, 06:13 PM
    Naom9Anne
    I found my humidity was suffering with my ceramic bulb in my vivarium. I added a water bowl and placed one directly under the heat and one on the cool side and I mist during shedding.

    My vivarium is 3ft by 1 ft by 1ft and I use a 100w bulb, I'm not sure how the gallon sized enclosures work as it's not something we measure in over here :)
  • 12-01-2013, 06:33 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    If the OP's room is already 80 degrees it really shouldn't take much to create a 90 degree hot side.

    Yes that option of course crossed my mind,but still,come summer when I'm at work my apt gets around 80-85 and had a 100 watt bulb and my tank only got to 90. He is in Fla,where it's hot year round,maybe on avg it's 80 when no one is not home,but what about when they are in the hot summer months and when it gets hotter come spring..ACs kick on,if anything he should stay with 100 watt.. 55 gallon is a big tank man,not that u don't know.
  • 12-01-2013, 06:51 PM
    maxamilliano
    Do you have a thermostat that measures humidity that if I hook up a humidifier to it when it got below a set humidity it would turn on a humidifier
  • 12-01-2013, 07:00 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maxamilliano View Post
    Do you have a thermostat that measures humidity that if I hook up a humidifier to it when it got below a set humidity it would turn on a humidifier

    Get a timer and hook a humidifier up to it..then mess around and find what works well for you. Just as an example,set it to go on for 15 seconds every 5 hrs and just go with the flow and see what works..it's trial and error with that..no one can give you an exact answer for that. They can give you ideas. But Unfortunately,messing with temps and humidity etc requires you too put in effort of your own.

    in my tank I leave a analog hygrometer to measure humidity...I have it placed accordingly.
  • 12-01-2013, 07:10 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    Yes that option of course crossed my mind,but still,come summer when I'm at work my apt gets around 80-85 and had a 100 watt bulb and my tank only got to 90. He is in Fla,where it's hot year round,maybe on avg it's 80 when no one is not home,but what about when they are in the hot summer months and when it gets hotter come spring..ACs kick on,if anything he should stay with 100 watt.. 55 gallon is a big tank man,not that u don't know.

    interesting, the bearded dragon cages I have no problem hitting over 100° with a 50 watt bulb, with a screen front in a 75°-80° room.

    I have to ask, are you actually using a heat lamp or just a regular 100 watt incandescent light bulb? to only have a 5° difference is kind of odd.

    edit: we use 50 watt, not 75 watt, they got over 120 degrees.
  • 12-01-2013, 07:22 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    I'm not sure what your talking about with a 5 degree difference,lol,I actually have no idea what your talking about

    im using a 100 watt day time heat lamp during the day obviously .and a 75 watt zilla red basking bulb at night..

    and my temps are as described and if you are questioning my 5 degree diff,I'm stating depending the situation and what my apt gets during let's say winter and summer..no AC on or the AC on, the heat on or off,winter season or summer season..my apt isn't exactly 70 degrees year round,I live in NY,have diff seasons..
  • 12-01-2013, 07:27 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: ball oython humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    I'm not sure what your talking about with a 5 degree difference,lol,I actually have no idea what your talking about

    Well I did some math from this post....

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    Yes that option of course crossed my mind,but still,come summer when I'm at work my apt gets around 80-85 and had a 100 watt bulb and my tank only got to 90. He is in Fla,where it's hot year round,maybe on avg it's 80 when no one is not home,but what about when they are in the hot summer months and when it gets hotter come spring..ACs kick on,if anything he should stay with 100 watt.. 55 gallon is a big tank man,not that u don't know.

    Believe it or not, it turned out that 90 minus 85 = 5 degrees, aka the difference.
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