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Burms in Illinois

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  • 02-28-2013, 09:29 PM
    Gerardo
    Burms in Illinois
    I have been thinking of getting a burm for years and never really thought about breeders because i thought "when the time comes i can get it from many great breeders." Well now because of that stupid law i can only get it from my state. Does anybody know of any reliable burm breeders in Illinois?
  • 02-28-2013, 09:34 PM
    BoostedMX3
    U can't buy from out of state? I thought the only law on owning snake in il were nothing posionous and now sale or trade anything over 6ft or something
  • 02-28-2013, 09:36 PM
    Rob
    Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    U can't buy from out of state? I thought the only law on owning snake in il were nothing posionous and now sale or trade anything over 6ft or something

    ???
    There are no poisonous snakes, only venomous.
    And Burms are now on the Lacey act, means no crossing state lines with one. Or it could mean jail time.
  • 02-28-2013, 09:37 PM
    Trackstrong83
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    U can't buy from out of state? I thought the only law on owning snake in il were nothing posionous and now sale or trade anything over 6ft or something

    Yeah with the new Lacey act, burms, African rocks, and two types of anacondas can't cross state lines, there might be more snakes, but this is all I can think of at the moment.
  • 02-28-2013, 10:04 PM
    BoostedMX3
    Poison venom wtvr u know The point I was putting across..

    And I did not know that nor paid all that much attn to the new law. Just getting into the hobby recently..

    Kinda rediculous that they can't cross state lines this far north not like a burn would ever be able to survive in grant park with a Chicago winter.

    I haven't seen any at the AAE in Wheaton but the tinley park show is supposed to be big I would imagine seeing them there
  • 02-28-2013, 10:13 PM
    Gerardo
    They cant even survive some parts of florida. And the narbc show is big but nobody can bring burms from out of state so it doesnt really matter how big it is. I just want a healthy burm from a reliable breeder. But i havnt really heard much about breeders in Illionis.
  • 02-28-2013, 10:17 PM
    BoostedMX3
    I had a friend back in highschool who had 3 of them but that was 9 years ago and I don't think he was breeding them
  • 02-28-2013, 10:18 PM
    Rob
    Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    Poison venom wtvr u know The point I was putting across..

    And I did not know that nor paid all that much attn to the new law. Just getting into the hobby recently..

    Kinda rediculous that they can't cross state lines this far north not like a burn would ever be able to survive in grant park with a Chicago winter.

    Yup I did, just correcting you now, so you don't get crazy looks from fellow herpers if you say poisonous to them.
    And yeah it's complete crap that they are on the Lacey act now. It's just politicians that know nothing on the subject but just want their name on a bill.
  • 02-28-2013, 10:19 PM
    BoostedMX3
    I'm sure it's frowned upon but u could possibly find one in WI or IN or something that's still tiny and smuggle it in haha I don't see your avg state trooper being able to identify it even if they do know the laws on them
  • 02-28-2013, 10:21 PM
    Rob
    Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    I'm sure it's frowned upon but u could possibly find one in WI or IN or something that's still tiny and smuggle it in haha I don't see your avg state trooper being able to identify it even if they do know the laws on them

    Yes it's possible. But not worth the risk, and it would further give our hobby a bad name. :(
    Side note, we're not allowed to advocate illegal acts on here.
  • 02-28-2013, 10:29 PM
    Gerardo
    I dont want to get it illegally. Even thought its complete bs we all have to follow the law. All we can do is try to educate people little by little about snakes. Any chance i get to talk to a stranger about snakes i do it. Even the smallest piece of CORRECT information you give to somebody not even involved with snakes can still help the hobby.
  • 02-28-2013, 10:33 PM
    KatStoverReptiles
    Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trackstrong83 View Post
    Yeah with the new Lacey act, burms, African rocks, and two types of anacondas can't cross state lines, there might be more snakes, but this is all I can think of at the moment.

    Actually it's the burm, yellow anaconda, and north and south African rock pythons...

    OP: perhaps try Craigslist? I haven't seen any burms at any of the Tinley shows in the past 3 shows or so. I don't attend the AAE in Wheaton so I can't attest to anything there.

    I wouldn't try to smuggle one across state lines. Yes, chances are you're not going to get caught, but you can be dang sure that if you did, Sen. Salazar would make sure an example is made of you. I don't think a burm is worth being a felon...
  • 02-28-2013, 11:02 PM
    Tfpets
    If it gets to difficult, you can still legally get a retic from anywhere (for now)! Just a thought!
  • 02-28-2013, 11:17 PM
    Trackstrong83
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KatStoverReptiles View Post
    Actually it's the burm, yellow anaconda, and north and south African rock pythons...

    Ah I knew it was something like that lol thank ya :)
  • 02-28-2013, 11:33 PM
    norwegn113
    Have you thought about checking local rescues?
  • 03-01-2013, 06:29 AM
    Gerardo
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by norwegn113 View Post
    Have you thought about checking local rescues?

    Anybody know of any?
  • 03-02-2013, 06:09 PM
    FrankieCarbone
    Burms in Illinois
    Crazy, i remember when i was a kid seeing albino burmese pythons for sale in petland. Man, im getting old
  • 03-02-2013, 07:32 PM
    BoostedMX3
    So what if u legally own a burm and have to move to another state for a job and both states it is ok to own them?

    I wasn't really advocating obtaining it illegally just throwing it out there that I'm sure it could be done..
  • 03-02-2013, 07:33 PM
    BoostedMX3
    Another "out there" thought what if you were able to buy an egg and incubate it yourself
  • 03-02-2013, 07:59 PM
    dr del
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    So what if u legally own a burm and have to move to another state for a job and both states it is ok to own them?

    I wasn't really advocating obtaining it illegally just throwing it out there that I'm sure it could be done..

    Nope - still can't move it accross the border at that point.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    Another "out there" thought what if you were able to buy an egg and incubate it yourself

    No clue on this one.
  • 03-02-2013, 08:39 PM
    Gerardo
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    Another "out there" thought what if you were able to buy an egg and incubate it yourself

    Never thought of that.
  • 03-02-2013, 08:47 PM
    BigJayPiercer
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoostedMX3 View Post
    Another "out there" thought what if you were able to buy an egg and incubate it yourself

    Still a Felony if it xomea from across state lines.

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  • 03-04-2013, 02:51 AM
    OsirisRa32
    xomea? I still can't figure that one out...
  • 03-04-2013, 08:50 AM
    Annarose15
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigJayPiercer View Post
    Still a Felony if it xomea from across state lines.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OsirisRa32 View Post
    xomea? I still can't figure that one out...

    "Still a felony if it comes from across state lines." You just have to look at the keys beside the "x" and "a" on the keyboard. ;)
  • 03-04-2013, 10:41 AM
    Kaorte
    Does it have to be a burmese? There are plenty of other bigger boas and pythons that are legal to transport across state lines and are also beautiful and a pleasure to take care of.

    There is a rescue program through the Chicago herp society, but you must be a member in order to foster. I am not sure what animals they have at the moment but you can find out at their open-to-the-public meeting that is held once a month at the Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum.

    Honestly, I would just go for a different species. There is still a lot to choose from.
  • 03-04-2013, 07:19 PM
    Gerardo
    I guess it doesnt have to be a burm. Just that a burm was the first big snake was ever interested in. If i won the lottery i'd have 1 of everything.
  • 03-05-2013, 04:55 AM
    BLM94
    Maybe a female BCC? Those get some serious size on them as well and are (for now) legal in most if not all states as well as transporting across state lines
  • 03-06-2013, 12:05 PM
    enchantress62
    Re: Burms in Illinois
    May I suggest craigslist. It's not an ideal place but if you google Illinois burm breeders and you don't find anything then there's always someone on craigslist trying to find homes for their pets.
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