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  • 12-07-2012, 10:24 AM
    JohnNJ
    Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Just curious as to which website that you advertise your available BP's on results in the most actual sales, not just inquiries.
  • 12-07-2012, 10:38 AM
    Don
    I haven't started a Kingsnake account yet. I've sold through here, Fauna, my own website and Facebook. However, most of my sales have been through vending tables at Expos and referrals from those customers.
  • 12-07-2012, 10:44 AM
    Ridinandreptiles
    expos..... a few on ks
  • 12-07-2012, 10:44 AM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Don View Post
    I haven't started a Kingsnake account yet. I've sold through here, Fauna, my own website and Facebook. However, most of my sales have been through vending tables at Expos and referrals from those customers.

    Thanks for the reply Don. I wanted to focus on online advertising, not in-person sales at Expos. Would you think the referrals go to your website to see what's available which then results in a sale?
  • 12-07-2012, 11:48 AM
    Don
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Thanks for the reply Don. I wanted to focus on online advertising, not in-person sales at Expos. Would you think the referrals go to your website to see what's available which then results in a sale?

    Yes, I haven't looked back at my records, but I believe that most of my on-line sales have come from people who have looked at my website/facebook to see what is available. Many times, people tell me that they may have seen me advertise on one of the forums, then went to my FB or website to see what else I had. I hate HTML and have developed a Photobucket folder with everything available that is a link on the website. I don't think I have a very good website, but it does work. One of these days, I'm going to have to put some more work into it.
  • 12-07-2012, 12:00 PM
    snakesRkewl
    I've sold more snakes from fauna ads, probably more than facebook and kingsnake combined.
    Facebook gives tons of exposure, but fauna has delivered on the sales :gj:
  • 12-07-2012, 12:24 PM
    MasonC2K
    I have sold from here and CL. Mostly local sales via CL and those people referring me to others. I have a KS account but nothing sold there yet. I would have had more here but some peoples finances fell through at the last minute. So the potential here is pretty good.
  • 12-07-2012, 01:08 PM
    loonunit
    I voted kingsnake, but close to half my sales were from my bp.net ads this year. Certainly half of the inquiries were. Which surprised me, because those ads fall so fast.
  • 12-07-2012, 02:38 PM
    JohnNJ
    I just noticed that I could not see the poll in Tapatalk.

    I hit menu while I was reading the thread and then hit "web view" and I could see the poll and vote.
  • 12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    I voted on CL but LoneStarReptileSyndicate has gotten me most of them ;)
  • 12-07-2012, 08:11 PM
    joebad976
    I had zero luck with Fauna and never posted any ads on BP.Net but I may post one this week to try it out.

    All of my sales came from Kingsnake.
  • 12-07-2012, 09:04 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Pure online transaction Fauna has been the best to me, but craigslist has helped me move the most.
  • 12-07-2012, 09:12 PM
    DooLittle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    I just noticed that I could not see the poll in Tapatalk.

    I hit menu while I was reading the thread and then hit "web view" and I could see the poll and vote.

    Thank you for this tip! It drives me nuts that I can't see polls on tapatalk... Now I can! :D

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
  • 12-07-2012, 10:28 PM
    irishanaconda
    I usually try and sell to my friends first, but if it takes longer than a month ill post on fauna or craigslist. Ive gotten alot of inquiries here but actual sales goes to fauna
  • 12-08-2012, 02:21 AM
    Wapadi
    I sold most of mine on Facebook. Not my reptile page, lol, my personal name page. And my second best site is right here! I did buy a kingsnake subscribtion this year for only 3 months and I sold a couple but no where near the responses as facebook! It was great! Most of my snakes sold (on hold) before they had 5 meals and could be shipped!!
  • 12-08-2012, 09:04 PM
    wendhend
    Where I live, Craigslist doesn't let poeple 'sell' animals, but you can 'rehome' them for a small fee. Apparently people get flagged a lot if they advertise animals there without listing prices. I don't even bother with it. I have had pretty good luck selling ball pythons on my personal website and especially on Kingsnake.com. I think the Kingsnake.com subscription is very well worth what you pay for it.
  • 12-09-2012, 11:39 AM
    JohnNJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wendhend View Post
    Where I live, Craigslist doesn't let poeple 'sell' animals, but you can 'rehome' them for a small fee. Apparently people get flagged a lot if they advertise animals there without listing prices. I don't even bother with it.

    You can sell your snakes in the For Sale section of Craigslist and you will not get flagged.
  • 12-09-2012, 12:14 PM
    LotsaBalls
    I haven't sold any this year. Much to the disappointment of my wife. I've mostly been trying craigslist I think I'm going to lower my prices a little.
  • 12-09-2012, 01:05 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    You can sell your snakes in the For Sale section of Craigslist and you will not get flagged.

    That's not true, it's against their TOS and in my area they flag many snake sales ads.
    People still do sell their, but it is against their rules ;)
  • 12-09-2012, 02:29 PM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    That's not true, it's against their TOS and in my area they flag many snake sales ads.
    People still do sell their, but it is against their rules ;)

    I guess every area is different. I see flagging in the "Pets" section but it has not happened to me in the "For Sale" section.

    Basically all of my 2012 babies plus all of my surplus adults and colubrids sold through Craigslist. I placed ads on this site which didn't produce a single inquiry and Fauna which produced a bunch of send picture inquiries. CL also produced a lot of wasted time inquiries but it did work overall. I thought about using Facebook next but it isn't doing well in the poll. Maybe kingsnake will be worth a try.

    I'm hoping to see more votes. Remember "web view" if you're using Tapatalk.

    Below is my Craigslist area:

    albany
    allentown
    binghamton
    catskills
    central nj
    delaware
    eastern ct
    elmira
    harrisburg
    hartford
    hudson valley
    ithaca
    jersey shore
    lancaster
    long island
    new haven
    new york
    north jersey
    northwest ct
    oneonta
    philadelphia
    poconos
    reading
    rhode island
    scranton
    south jersey
    western mass
    williamsport
    worcester
    york
  • 12-10-2012, 02:00 PM
    JohnNJ
    Need more votes.
  • 12-10-2012, 03:13 PM
    buddha1200
    sold both of my clutches on craigslist last year.
    i put an ad on fauna for some blood pythons i was selling and they never sold,put the same ones on craiglist and they sold that week.
  • 12-10-2012, 03:58 PM
    FireStorm
    I primarily advertise on Fauna and Kingsnake, but setting up my website has been the biggest help. Fauna, KS, and even just having my site in my signature line here seems to bring a lot of traffic to the website, though.
  • 12-10-2012, 05:41 PM
    wendhend
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    You can sell your snakes in the For Sale section of Craigslist and you will not get flagged.

    Good to know! And people will find them okay outside of the pet section? I guess I never would have thought to look anywhere outside of the pet section.
  • 12-10-2012, 06:03 PM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wendhend View Post
    Good to know! And people will find them okay outside of the pet section? I guess I never would have thought to look anywhere outside of the pet section.

    Test it yourself. Go to your local Craigslist site and search the whole "For Sale" section for python or pythons. See if any come up.

    You'll get other ads for non-snake related "python" stuff but you should find a few snake ads. I see most posted in the "general for sale - by owner" section but it's easier to just search all of it.
  • 12-10-2012, 08:40 PM
    3skulls
    I would have never thought CL was used by so many people.
    When I think of CL, I think of half dead snakes, covered in mites, sitting on top of a heat rock.

    Not to offend anyone :p

    I can't vote because I haven't sold any snakes (yet) but I can tell you where i have purchased mine.
    Kingsnake and local shows / local reptile board.
  • 12-12-2012, 08:55 AM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3skulls View Post
    I would have never thought CL was used by so many people.
    When I think of CL, I think of half dead snakes, covered in mites, sitting on top of a heat rock.

    Not to offend anyone :p

    I can't vote because I haven't sold any snakes (yet) but I can tell you where i have purchased mine.
    Kingsnake and local shows / local reptile board.

    I thought the same way about CL but that's where people buy. There are a lot of flakes on CL so you have to be careful and also not get upset at some of the questions. The queries I got from Fauna were more direct and professional but I got the impression that those people were just looking for the best deal. I got more lowball offers from experienced reptile people than newbies.
  • 12-12-2012, 10:16 AM
    jben
    I sold out this year by using YouTube.
  • 12-12-2012, 04:51 PM
    JohnNJ
    Youtube? Didn't think of that one.
  • 12-12-2012, 04:59 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Youtube? Didn't think of that one.

    Actually thats a pretty good idea. Showing a video of all the snakes you have for sale and just saying the prices. Also i like knowing that im buy from someone who takes care of their animals so seeing their setups is a bonus too! :)
  • 12-13-2012, 12:36 AM
    Badgemash
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3skulls View Post
    I would have never thought CL was used by so many people.
    When I think of CL, I think of half dead snakes, covered in mites, sitting on top of a heat rock.

    Not to offend anyone :p

    I can't vote because I haven't sold any snakes (yet) but I can tell you where i have purchased mine.
    Kingsnake and local shows / local reptile board.

    I'm in the same position, I haven't had anything to sell, but I can give the (somewhat voracious) consumer viewpoint. As a shopper I don't even bother with CL for the same reasons, in my mind CL=rescues (I know this isn't always the case, but a lot of people do seem to go there to dump unwanted animals). I do most of my shopping on kingsnake, it's fairly easy to use the search function to find what I'm looking for genetically and do price/quality comparisons. I do however expect a link to a website on a kingsnake ad, and if the website looks shoddy I don't buy. I expect a professional quality website from a professional breeder. So my vote would be split between kingsnake and websites.
  • 12-13-2012, 02:52 AM
    jben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Youtube? Didn't think of that one.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Actually thats a pretty good idea. Showing a video of all the snakes you have for sale and just saying the prices. Also i like knowing that im buy from someone who takes care of their animals so seeing their setups is a bonus too! :)

    I didn't really expect to sell any snakes by using YouTube , I just figured since I'm shooting a video I might as well mention the ones for sale and next thing you know the emails and messages started pouring.:D

    Sent from my EVO Design using Tapatalk 2.
  • 12-13-2012, 06:38 AM
    JohnNJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    I'm in the same position, I haven't had anything to sell, but I can give the (somewhat voracious) consumer viewpoint. As a shopper I don't even bother with CL for the same reasons, in my mind CL=rescues (I know this isn't always the case, but a lot of people do seem to go there to dump unwanted animals). I do most of my shopping on kingsnake, it's fairly easy to use the search function to find what I'm looking for genetically and do price/quality comparisons. I do however expect a link to a website on a kingsnake ad, and if the website looks shoddy I don't buy. I expect a professional quality website from a professional breeder. So my vote would be split between kingsnake and websites.

    Just so I understand, you look for professional breeders with professional websites that use a paid classified service and that offer top quality snakes - the best of everything. And for all that you are willing to pay top dollar, even over market value, right?
  • 12-14-2012, 04:48 PM
    Badgemash
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Just so I understand, you look for professional breeders with professional websites that use a paid classified service and that offer top quality snakes - the best of everything. And for all that you are willing to pay top dollar, even over market value, right?

    I am willing, and I have. Like anyone, I'm happy to get a bargain, but only if everything seems to be in order. I understand that professional breeders have higher overhead than hobbyists, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for top animals/top service. To me buying a questionable animal just because it's "cheap" is false economy if I end up spending a fortune at the vet. I feel that with a professional breeder I have much lower risk of buying an animal that is unhealthy, I don't want to spread diseases among my animals for sure, but as a pro that would destroy your business. I'm not going to pay massively over market value, but I'm happy to pay at the high end of the spectrum for a good quality, healthy animal.
  • 12-14-2012, 06:08 PM
    qegalpal
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    I voted craig's list because in my area you can find everything from champagne, to pewter and even
    a nice calider male listed. I've tried both kingsnake and fauna but sold nothing on either site.
    I have bought from all three sites and follow strict quarantine guidelines for anything brought
    into my small collection.
  • 12-14-2012, 06:58 PM
    m00kfu
    Fauna by far... I've advertised here, BLBC, fauna, kingsnake, and facebook. At this point I only post classifieds on fauna, kingsnake, and facebook but do run a banner on bp.net still.
  • 12-14-2012, 06:58 PM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    I am willing, and I have. Like anyone, I'm happy to get a bargain, but only if everything seems to be in order. I understand that professional breeders have higher overhead than hobbyists, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for top animals/top service. To me buying a questionable animal just because it's "cheap" is false economy if I end up spending a fortune at the vet. I feel that with a professional breeder I have much lower risk of buying an animal that is unhealthy, I don't want to spread diseases among my animals for sure, but as a pro that would destroy your business. I'm not going to pay massively over market value, but I'm happy to pay at the high end of the spectrum for a good quality, healthy animal.

    I'm sure others feel the same way and are willing to pay more for quality.

    I may differ in the definition of a professional in that I consider a professional BP breeder someone that makes their entire living from breeding and selling snakes. There are some, like Outback, that don't just sell what they breed but flip snakes from other sources. There are the obvious Pro's like BHB, NERD, JKobylka, Ralph Davis, etc. but there are some that frequent this forum that also make their living from breeding.

    That said, there are some people that frequent this forum that I do not consider Pro's but that I would not hesitate to purchase snakes from. I could name a few but then I'd have to name them all. Point is you can get very high quality snakes from hobbyists also. And some of those hobbyists advertise their snakes for sale on Craigslist. :D
  • 12-14-2012, 09:10 PM
    Badgemash
    I have no problem buying from a hobbyist if I can be sure of the quality of the animal and their care. In fact loonunit bred Little Dude, my PH lavender, but I know her personally. I guess I'm just more hesitant to attempt to sort the good ones out on CL. Although if they had consistent good reviews on the forums I wouldn't have a problem with it.
  • 12-15-2012, 06:40 PM
    wendhend
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Test it yourself. Go to your local Craigslist site and search the whole "For Sale" section for python or pythons. See if any come up.

    You'll get other ads for non-snake related "python" stuff but you should find a few snake ads. I see most posted in the "general for sale - by owner" section but it's easier to just search all of it.

    Okay, I tried it and ended up finding a couple of corn snakes for sale in my area but no pythons. Maybe I'll have to try advertising there sometime when I have more snakes for sale.
  • 12-15-2012, 07:40 PM
    JohnNJ
    Re: Which site results in the most sales of your BP's?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wendhend View Post
    Okay, I tried it and ended up finding a couple of corn snakes for sale in my area but no pythons. Maybe I'll have to try advertising there sometime when I have more snakes for sale.

    I use a CL search engine - SearchTempest.com - and used your zip code and found several ball python and carpet python ads, especially around Portland. There were a lot more when the eggs started hatching.

    You have nothing to lose by trying it since it's free.
  • 12-27-2012, 04:23 PM
    JohnNJ
    bump :)
  • 01-10-2013, 05:53 PM
    JohnNJ
    bump bump :)
  • 01-12-2013, 02:42 AM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Craigslist just isn't worth it. Too many weirdos, too many people that don't show up, etc.
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