Brand New BP owner... condensation in the hide?

Good morning all!

I JUST got my 2012 male bp yesterday from Renick Reptiles. When I took him out of the bad, he was hissing a lot, so I put him in his tank (didnt want to get bit lol) but my real question is that I'm concerned because when I lifted up his hide on the warm side, there was condensation all on the inside of the hide. I have cypress mulch, and the temp is usually 88-89.

I'm sure this cant be healthy, what should I do?

thanks!
Johnny

What is your humidity at?

He may have pee'd in there. If not you have to find a way to get more air flow in the tank to lower the humidity.

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Originally Posted by mackynz

What is your humidity at?

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its at 62% currently

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

its at 62% currently

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I've never had condensation at 62%. My pastel is in shed and his humidity is at 75% and there's no condensation. I still think he could have urinated in the hide at some time last night.

cypress mulch holds humidity and moisture really well, just try cleaning the area the hide is on maybe put a smaller paper towel under the hide.. try and fix it asap and then just leave him for like 3/4 days then start handling like 5-10mins a day dont wanna stress him out too bad..

and i x2 the air flow

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Originally Posted by RetiredJedi

I've never had condensation at 62%. My pastel is in shed and his humidity is at 75% and there's no condensation. I still think he could have urinated in the hide at some time last night.

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I was thinking that could be it too.. but the substrate is dry? I'm just really paranoid that he is going to get an infection of some kind.

can you post pictures of the enclosure you've got him in?

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

can you post pictures of the enclosure you've got him in?

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how do I put the picture in the thread?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

how do I put the picture in the thread?

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if you upload the picture to photobucket or tinypic.com there will be a code you can copy from there :)

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

if you upload the picture to photobucket or tinypic.com there will be a code you can copy from there :)

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http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/u...620_103822.jpg

well that looks ok maybe try taking one hide out or getting a smaller hide how old is the snake?

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

well that looks ok maybe try taking one hide out or getting a smaller hide how old is the snake?

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I think maybe a month- 2 months old lol

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

I think maybe a month- 2 months old lol

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ye my baby ball is about a month old and i give him small hides they dont like large spaces them hides look huge on the picture!

ill try get a picture of my set up for my ball

this is my set up for my baby, he eats fine he sheds great hes never agressive.. everythings a mess im just about to feed lol:

http://i50.tinypic.com/24dm39x.jpg

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

this is my set up for my baby, he eats fine he sheds great hes never agressive.. everythings a mess im just about to feed lol:

http://i50.tinypic.com/24dm39x.jpg

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looks great! :)

They do like snug little hides. You can always crumple up newspaper and fill part of the hide with it and remove it as he gets bigger.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

I was thinking that could be it too.. but the substrate is dry? I'm just really paranoid that he is going to get an infection of some kind.

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He could have very well pee'd and the condensation is a result of the UTH drying out the substrate. I would dry out the hide and recheck later. If the substrate is completely dry then your good but if it's damp you should change it in that area and keep an eye on it.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

I was thinking that could be it too.. but the substrate is dry? I'm just really paranoid that he is going to get an infection of some kind.

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Pythons and snakes in general do not urinate wet like mammals. Their kidneys pass only dry urates, this is definitely not a case of evaporating urine condensing under the hide.

Besides, the amount of urine you would need for condensation to build inside the hide would smell awful WAY before it started condensing.

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Originally Posted by AdamF

Pythons and snakes in general do not urinate wet like mammals. Their kidneys pass only dry urates, this is definitely not a case of evaporating urine condensing under the hide.

Besides, the amount of urine you would need for condensation to build inside the hide would smell awful WAY before it started condensing.

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okay, then what should I do? is it okay for him to stay in a hide that has condensation like that?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

okay, then what should I do? is it okay for him to stay in a hide that has condensation like that?

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I'm guessing he spilled water from one of those water bowls. Try rearranging the furniture and see what happens.

Is the top of that enclosure air tight?

That hide also looks like it really would old moisture. They something that may be more porous. Bottom of clay pot, cereal box, etc.

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Originally Posted by AdamF

Pythons and snakes in general do not urinate wet like mammals. Their kidneys pass only dry urates, this is definitely not a case of evaporating urine condensing under the hide.

Besides, the amount of urine you would need for condensation to build inside the hide would smell awful WAY before it started condensing.

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My BP always urinate wet a long with the urates. I have never had urates without some sort of wetness. You are correct though, there would most definately be a smell. Of course I can only answer the smell since I use paper as a substrate, I don't know if aspen could possibly mask it.

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Originally Posted by AdamF

I'm guessing he spilled water from one of those water bowls. Try rearranging the furniture and see what happens.

Is the top of that enclosure air tight?

That hide also looks like it really would old moisture. They something that may be more porous. Bottom of clay pot, cereal box, etc.

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There's no way he could have knocked over his water bowl lol he's too little, and I have a mesh top.

maybe his ball is soaking in the water.. going under the hide maybe?
have you saw your python soaking in the water or anything like that?

Maybe you could go to dollar tree and get a cheap, small bowl and cut a hole in it to use as a hide. See if a different hide has the same effect. If you use the bowl idea make sure you kind of use a lighter along the edges where you cut in order to smooth out and sharp areas.

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

maybe his ball is soaking in the water.. going under the hide maybe?
have you saw your python soaking in the water or anything like that?

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I just got him yesterday lol he hasnt come out of his hide as of yet. I'm assuming he's still pretty freaked out from shipping and being in a new home

I thought it had to be 90% or more to have condensation .....
I added aluminum foil to the screened top of my tank untill I had condensation, then I trimmed away some foil to increase ventilation on the side where the condensation happened.

Harry

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHart

There's no way he could have knocked over his water bowl lol he's too little, and I have a mesh top.

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Not knocked over a bowl, simply made a mess crawling in and out of water. Maybe you spilled some water moving around.


As for the urates, the point in, they do not urinate like mammals. It is primarily a dry-ish substance that will not produce condensation, but will smell

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Originally Posted by AdamF

Pythons and snakes in general do not urinate wet like mammals. Their kidneys pass only dry urates, this is definitely not a case of evaporating urine condensing under the hide.

Besides, the amount of urine you would need for condensation to build inside the hide would smell awful WAY before it started condensing.

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While the latter part is probably true, the first part is not. Snakes do pass liquid urine as well as urates.